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Post icon  Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:19 PM

When i bought my first guitar (My good ol' Hohner acoustic) about 2 years ago, i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. It sounded nice, played pretty good and had a nice small body that was easy to get around with. Them it was the best 100$ i'd ever spent, mind you it was an used guitar, but it meant the world to me!!. Then lately i've been noticing many differences between my "acoustic" and others. Mines body is very small and curvy, the neck is really wide and flat- not thinner and rounded like others. Just basically the whole set up. Then i played a classical guitar. The similarities were insane. Then i started to notice that the neck of mone was starting to bow alittle bit, so i brought it into the shop to get a truss rod adjustment. The guitar tech asked me why i had steel strings on a classical guitar. That did it for me. now i have to get a REAL acoustic, before i do anymore damage to it. My nut and saddle are pretty much finished and the wooden bridge is cracked due to the added tension of the steel strings i used on it for two years. Any suggestions? Nothing over 650$ canadian please.

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:26 PM

i love classic guitars. Anyway i would suggest a Takamine or some sort of Gibson acoustic. Also i find Washburn has some nice ones too (and affordable). My own acoustic is an Ibanez Talman and i find it play beautifully and looks quite nice. Just make sure you try them out and get a get one with a good feel to it. Also make sure u watch for things like fret buzz and such in the acoustics when u try them out. Oh and Taylors are also good and affordable acoustics.. also very pretty guitars

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:27 PM

of the ones youmentioned, do they have a "boomy"sound? I like a clear, crisp, stringy-ish sound from acoustics.
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:29 PM

i know what your talking about. My Ibanez has tha kind of sound which is one of the reasons i like it and i think Taylors would be something to seriously consider because of the things you are looking for
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (guitarfan19 @ Nov 9 2004, 10:29 PM)
i know what your talking about. My Ibanez has tha kind of sound which is one of the reasons i like it and i think Taylors would be something to seriously consider because of the things you are looking for


How much do they go for?

Are the necks thinner?

Are the higher frets accessible?

Quality?
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 09:41 PM

my Ibanez costed $330
the neck is medium thickness to thinner
im afraid it only has 20 frets but then on acoustic i only use up to 20 at most anyway
i think it really has good quality

Taylors it depends on the model but most of them are quite expensive.Altho the baby taylor is a good guitar that is about $350.

Washburns i think are going to be good for what you are looking for also. they get that good sound, they are within the price range you set and very pretty too. very nice one here
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 11:58 PM

QUOTE (tml @ Nov 10 2004, 03:19 PM)
When i bought my first guitar (My good ol' Hohner acoustic) about 2 years ago, i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. It sounded nice, played pretty good and had a nice small body that was easy to get around with. Them it was the best 100$ i'd ever spent, mind you it was an used guitar, but it meant the world to me!!. Then lately i've been noticing many differences between my "acoustic" and others. Mines body is very small and curvy, the neck is really wide and flat- not thinner and rounded like others. Just basically the whole set up. Then i played a classical guitar. The similarities were insane. Then i started to notice that the neck of mone was starting to bow alittle bit, so i brought it into the shop to get a truss rod adjustment. The guitar tech asked me why i had steel strings on a classical guitar. That did it for me. now i have to get a REAL acoustic, before i do anymore damage to it. My nut and saddle are pretty much finished and the wooden bridge is cracked due to the added tension of the steel strings i used on it for two years. Any suggestions? Nothing over 650$ canadian please.

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 12:12 AM

I'm a Takamine and Taylor guy so I would recommend that but in your price range I would probably go with a Washburn or Ibanez.
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 07:18 AM

I've gotta say i don't like the Talmans at all, a guy at tafe has one at it's the ugliest thing i've ever seen. It also feels very cheap, the neck is very odd (it's supposed to be more electric than other guitars) and it sounds awful (but he does have electric strings on it).

I have an ibanez artwood (AW-80) and i can highly recommend that series, they sound great and play great. Has a very nice neck on it, good quality construction too. Not sure what they're worth, i got mine second hand for AU$400.

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (dogpoo @ Nov 10 2004, 05:58 AM)
QUOTE (tml @ Nov 10 2004, 03:19 PM)
When i bought my first guitar (My good ol' Hohner acoustic) about 2 years ago, i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. It sounded nice, played pretty good and had a nice small body that was easy to get around with. Them it was the best 100$ i'd ever spent, mind you it was an used guitar, but it meant the world to me!!. Then lately i've been noticing many differences between my "acoustic" and others. Mines body is very small and curvy, the neck is really wide and flat- not thinner and rounded like others. Just basically the whole set up. Then i played a classical guitar. The similarities were insane. Then i started to notice that the neck of mone was starting to bow alittle bit, so i brought it into the shop to get a truss rod adjustment. The guitar tech asked me why i had steel strings on a classical guitar. That did it for me. now i have to get a REAL acoustic, before i do anymore damage to it. My nut and saddle are pretty much finished and the wooden bridge is cracked due to the added tension of the steel strings i used on it for two years. Any suggestions? Nothing over 650$ canadian please.

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And you're not the only one... unsure.gif

From what was mentioned above, I'd go with Taylor or Takamine. I wouldn't be too over the moon about Ibanez to be honest... My first guitar was a Hohner dreadnought acoustic, it's a pretty nice guitar...
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 12:37 PM

I have seen and played these acoustic guitars that I have found around here called Art and Luthrie or something along those lines. they are nice guitars. talking price wise i think they are about 400-600 canadian but i am not sure on that. here in guelph no musical instrument is cheap its a joke. small towns suck laugh.gif i hate washburn guitars such a total rip off of other guitars when it comes to electrics and i am not a fan of their acoustics cause they dont stay in tune very well in my opinion. I love Yamaha and Art & Luthrie acoustics the best. at least the old yamaha's are good quality guitars. i might sell my Como acoustic cause the action is so high and it needs a nice new bridge on it or have the original shaven down a couple of milimeters and it might actually be worth like 450 bucks. i dont mind Fender acoustics cause they are pretty sturdy guitars but they lack sound quality compared to my own acoustics. its all a preferance thing ya know
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (imadique @ Nov 10 2004, 07:18 AM)
I've gotta say i don't like the Talmans at all, a guy at tafe has one at it's the ugliest thing i've ever seen. It also feels very cheap, the neck is very odd (it's supposed to be more electric than other guitars) and it sounds awful (but he does have electric strings on it). 

I have an ibanez artwood (AW-80) and i can highly recommend that series, they sound great and play great. Has a very nice neck on it, good quality construction too.  Not sure what they're worth, i got mine second hand for AU$400.

well i have done a bit of upgrading on mine so it might be a bit different and it was my first guitar and i wasnt too good at picking one out. Also you gotta get a good colour in them. i have seen some different models of the Talman and they have some extremely ugly colours. Mine sounds beautiful biggrin.gif
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:54 PM

QUOTE (tml @ Nov 9 2004, 09:19 PM)
When i bought my first guitar (My good ol' Hohner acoustic) about 2 years ago, i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. It sounded nice, played pretty good and had a nice small body that was easy to get around with. Them it was the best 100$ i'd ever spent, mind you it was an used guitar, but it meant the world to me!!. Then lately i've been noticing many differences between my "acoustic" and others. Mines body is very small and curvy, the neck is really wide and flat- not thinner and rounded like others. Just basically the whole set up. Then i played a classical guitar. The similarities were insane. Then i started to notice that the neck of mone was starting to bow alittle bit, so i brought it into the shop to get a truss rod adjustment. The guitar tech asked me why i had steel strings on a classical guitar. That did it for me. now i have to get a REAL acoustic, before i do anymore damage to it. My nut and saddle are pretty much finished and the wooden bridge is cracked due to the added tension of the steel strings i used on it for two years. Any suggestions? Nothing over 650$ canadian please.

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It's not a real acoustic? I don't know about that, I play classical and I find them to be a little bit of a more real acoustic than most atrocity's like the Talman. But I must say, ruining a classical by being silly enough to put steel on them, deserves the bashing of that same guitar of it's player. Silly rabbit, steel is for dreadnoughts.
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:59 PM

I say get an ibanez all the way. its very good if your not willing to spend a lot. mine was around $200 (idk since i got it as a christmas prezzy) and i LOVE it.

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Posted 11 November 2004 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE (epearson @ Nov 11 2004, 03:54 PM)
It's not a real acoustic?  I don't know about that, I play classical and I find them to be a little bit of a more real acoustic than most atrocity's like the Talman.  But I must say, ruining a classical by being silly enough to put steel on them, deserves the bashing of that same guitar of it's player.  Silly rabbit, steel is for dreadnoughts.


laugh.gif in her defense, she didn't know it wasn't supposed to be steel-strung though, she bought it with steel strings. laugh.gif which is still funny but...





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Posted 11 November 2004 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE (epearson @ Nov 10 2004, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (tml @ Nov 9 2004, 09:19 PM)
When i bought my first guitar (My good ol' Hohner acoustic) about 2 years ago, i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. It sounded nice, played pretty good and had a nice small body that was easy to get around with. Them it was the best 100$ i'd ever spent, mind you it was an used guitar, but it meant the world to me!!. Then lately i've been noticing many differences between my "acoustic" and others. Mines body is very small and curvy, the neck is really wide and flat- not thinner and rounded like others. Just basically the whole set up. Then i played a classical guitar. The similarities were insane. Then i started to notice that the neck of mone was starting to bow alittle bit, so i brought it into the shop to get a truss rod adjustment. The guitar tech asked me why i had steel strings on a classical guitar. That did it for me. now i have to get a REAL acoustic, before i do anymore damage to it. My nut and saddle are pretty much finished and the wooden bridge is cracked due to the added tension of the steel strings i used on it for two years. Any suggestions? Nothing over 650$ canadian please.

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It's not a real acoustic? I don't know about that, I play classical and I find them to be a little bit of a more real acoustic than most atrocity's like the Talman. But I must say, ruining a classical by being silly enough to put steel on them, deserves the bashing of that same guitar of it's player. Silly rabbit, steel is for dreadnoughts.




hey, when you're buying your first guitar, it's kinda hard to know what's supposed to do what and what supposed to go where. I'm not the one who put the steel strings on it, the person who sold it to the guitar store did.

By acoustic i mean steel stringed. Classical guitars are a form of acoustics also.. don;t get me wrong with that. I'm just pissed that i was suckered into buying it. If i would have known, i would have boughta proper STEEL stringed acoustic... not some classical with steel strings slapped on it.Thank god i wasn't very expensive.
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Posted 11 November 2004 - 01:41 PM

One of my old students (used to be a teacher) was excited about getting a guitar from his grandfather. He knew that I noodled around on the guitar some and wanted to bring it over so I could tune it for him.

I bout crapped, it was a classical that someone had put steel strings on. It didn't seem to be damaged. I took the steel off and got a set of nylons for it, and the young man has been learning on it for about a year now.

I think it was a Yamaha....not sure, and it took some time to get those strings stretched so they would stay in tune, but the guitar had a nice sound to it. The neck is a bit wider than most acoustics I've played as well.

If your classical wasn't damaged too much, or can be repaired without too much cost, I'd keep it, learn on it.
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Posted 11 November 2004 - 04:16 PM

I put steel strings on my classical a couple of times but found it was a pain in the butt too play for a long time. but honestly you should be able to tell the diff between a acoustic and a classical. its not hard really
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Posted 12 November 2004 - 03:44 AM

Takamine G-Series are amazing for the money you buy them for.
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