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#1 User is offline   CRG1400 Icon

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 03:40 PM

I have this epiphone acoustic guitar, nothing special. It was like one of the first guitars i had ever gotten. Well, when ever I play the g-string, there is a pretty nasty buzz that comes from the headstock. It happens with most of the other strings if i pluck them hard enough, but the g-string really makes it buzz. I think I narrowed the sound down to the g-string tuner. Is there anyway I can fix this if it is the tuner? I am pretty sure it is screwed in pretty securely. Any help appreciated, thanks.
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE (CRG1400 @ Jan 20 2005, 03:40 PM)
I have this epiphone acoustic guitar, nothing special.  It was like one of the first guitars i had ever gotten.  Well, when ever I play the g-string, there is a pretty nasty buzz that comes from the headstock.  It happens with most of the other strings if i pluck them hard enough, but the g-string really makes it buzz.  I think I narrowed the sound down to the g-string tuner.  Is there anyway I can fix this if it is the tuner?  I am pretty sure it is screwed in pretty securely.  Any help appreciated, thanks.


I had this same issue with my epipiphone.

Is there anything yo ucan do to make it stop, even temporarily?
--Try pressing on the tuner, if it stops...replace the tuner.
--Try pressing all over the body of the guitar, it could be weak bracing.

Mine luckily worked itself out after I tried different strings...mine was in the body, I could press on part of the guitar and that would make it stop...I even thought about making a brace that would straddle the hole..but never needed to develope it.

If it is for sure the tuner, you will need to replace it. Most tuners now-a-days are sealed, and you can't fix them indiviually, nor would it be worth the effort...are they Crower tuners?

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 05:57 PM

Pretty much what Wannalearn said. But also check the knob on the tuner to make sure it isn't loose, and the little bushing that's around the peg next to the wood.
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 06:07 PM

Yeah, I had the same problems with an Epiphone acoustic, the bushings weren't tight enough around the guitar. John knows how much trouble I had with those bloody bushings because I tormented him with questions about them... tongue.gif
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (evileye @ Jan 20 2005, 06:07 PM)
Yeah, I had the same problems with an Epiphone acoustic, the bushings weren't tight enough around the guitar. John knows how much trouble I had with those bloody bushings because I tormented him with questions about them... tongue.gif


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Posted 21 January 2005 - 04:43 AM

If it is the tuner (I take it you mean machine head/tuning peg/whatever you want to call it) then it's possible it might just be loose in some way. I know that I've encountered similar problems when playing on an Epiphone SG - the knob of the machine head was loose on two seperate guitars and they rattled. Check that all the machine heads are fixed firmly in place and that no screws or other fastennings have come loose.
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE (dadfad @ Jan 20 2005, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE (evileye @ Jan 20 2005, 06:07 PM)
Yeah, I had the same problems with an Epiphone acoustic, the bushings weren't tight enough around the guitar. John knows how much trouble I had with those bloody bushings because I tormented him with questions about them... tongue.gif


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I think one of my bushings is loose, care to share how you fixed it? Or the name of the topic it was under?

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 01:49 PM

Taken from a PM which John sent me:
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irst on the tuner. The cap on the face of the head-stock is (if I understand you right) is a tuner-bushing. Some tuner-bushings just sit on the face of head-stock, others either screw into the wood or are push-fitted into it. If it has a hexagonal-shaped cap to it, it probably screws in. If it is just circular it probably just pushes in. If your new tuner won't go through it, you probably need to remove it first (either by unscrewing or gently tapping it out from the opposite side with a little peg of wood or metal and lightly tapping it out. Do it carefully. I've seen them glued in (or some of the finish-coating was in the hole sticking it in) so tap carefully so you don't push out little specks of wood on top. Once it's out, you can more accurately see if it's made to go over the new tuner-machines you have. You might need another set of tuner-bushings (they come in different diameters. They are pretty inexpensive, from a dollar or so for the simple sit-on-the-face kind to several dollars for the screw-in or push-in type. You might be able to expand the hole in the ones you have if necessary with a circular file (sometimes called a rat-tail file) but its very tedious if you can find a bigger size cheaply. Might not be too much trouble though if it isn't do long. Some tuner-machine assemblies have tuner-bushings that go all the way through the head-stock and then screw into the opposing side if the tuner housing itself, but they are less common. Just as a simple check (for possibly being tapered inside, etc) see if the peg of your new tuner goes in at all from the wrong side. I would hesitate to recommend enlarging the hole in the bushing with an electric drill-gun because being such a small thin-walled part it can "get away from you" or bore through the side of the wall before you know it almost (although it CAN be done with a great deal of care). Maybe even using only the drill-bit itself and twisting it back and forth by hand until it goes through, using a bit with the same diameter as the peg itself. If there is only a very minimal amount of material to remove, that might be even easier than using a rat-tailed file.

Hope this helps, ratteling tuners seems to be a problem with the majority of Epiphone guitars.
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