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#1 User is offline   speedwaypinoy Icon

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 06:40 PM

hey I'm I just purchase yesterday a set of nylon strings for my classical, now i don't know anything about tension setting so I bought the normal tension, when I strung them on, it did sound as it did before, yes it was a nylon before but I now it has some sort of echoy sound, is it the string? do I need to get one with a diffrent tesion? or I just need it to settle in some more?
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 11:48 PM

settle them in, could be your old strings were dead. i've never had any problems with tension settings affecting sound, other than the higher the tension, the louder the sound.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 12:33 PM

A new set of nylons have alot of stretch in them, it takes a few days to get it out.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 08:58 PM

The echoey-ness is probably the sound of your guitar resonating, it's supposed to do that tongue.gif

It's quite likely you just got used to old strings and now these sound different. String tension determines volume and treble response quite often. Unless your guitar is made of fine solid woods, higher tension strings will make it brighter and possibly twangier (that's if it's cheaper) whereas a really nice classical will simply have more volume. Lower tension strings usually are more mellow and quiet. I myself use Augustine Blacks (normal tension) for my less nice acoustic electric and then for the nicer classical I hope to get (Alvarez MC-90) I'll use my old faves, La Bella Concert Series Medium Hard Tension. This is because my acoustic electric has laminate rosewood back and sides and needs lower tensions strings so as to not get twangy and then the Alvarez with it's solid rosewood back and sides needs a harder tension for more volume. Blah blah blah, that was waaaay too long.
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Posted 23 February 2005 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (epearson @ Feb 22 2005, 06:58 PM)
The echoey-ness is probably the sound of your guitar resonating, it's supposed to do that  tongue.gif

It's quite likely you just got used to old strings and now these sound different.  String tension determines volume and treble response quite often.  Unless your guitar is made of fine solid woods, higher tension strings will make it brighter and possibly twangier (that's if it's cheaper) whereas a really nice classical will simply have more volume.  Lower tension strings usually are more mellow and quiet.  I myself use Augustine Blacks (normal tension) for my less nice acoustic electric and then for the nicer classical I hope to get (Alvarez MC-90) I'll use my old faves, La Bella Concert Series Medium Hard Tension.  This is because my acoustic electric has laminate rosewood back and sides and needs lower tensions strings so as to not get twangy and then the Alvarez with it's solid rosewood back and sides needs a harder tension for more volume.  Blah blah blah, that was waaaay too long.



thanks alot that is the answer I have been looking for! btw, what is the name for a soft tension, like under a normal tension?
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Posted 24 February 2005 - 12:43 AM

Umm...I don't know too many 'soft' tensions, Augustine makes the only one I know of, Augustine Blues. I tried them once, VERY soft.
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Posted 24 February 2005 - 12:53 AM

there aren't many brands that make soft tensions, maybe because it makes the sound too soft. normal tension strings are already fairly soft. any particular reason why you're going for soft tension strings?

i go for the sound of flamenco strings myself. d'addario make great ones, the black nylons. i've got normal tension clear nylons on my guitar now though, and 2 more packs to go.
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Posted 27 February 2005 - 11:38 AM

Hmmm I have a Classical Guitar but have never needed new strings, soo I dunno what to do. sad.gif
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Posted 27 February 2005 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (ZKB @ Feb 28 2005, 05:38 AM)
Hmmm I have a Classical Guitar but have never needed new strings, soo I dunno what to do. sad.gif


i'm assuming you've never changed your strings. if those strings have been on your guitar for about four months, change them (if you play it regularly, that is. even if you don't after awhile the strings will sound dead, best change them if they've been on for a good while). its not hard to change, do a search online on how to change classical guitar strings, i found a pretty good site for it once. you might be amazed at the sound difference, only thing about new strings is the stretching, only takes about a week to settle anyway, so you'd still be better off with a decent set of strings.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 11:02 AM

Hi everyone,
I am thinking of getting a new classical guitar, my problem is that all the ones that i have played sound awful other than very expensive ones that are way out of my price range.
has anyone here found a good medium priced classical that sounds and plays well. I would really like to try one, but have found the cost prohibitive and the necks seem very wide.
But they sound so nice when played well.

any advice and sorry for landing on this thread.

Rachel

and my brother uses savarenze(not sure about the spelling sorry)
sunday girl
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (ZKB @ Feb 27 2005, 04:38 PM)
Hmmm I have a Classical Guitar but have never needed new strings, soo I dunno what to do. sad.gif



nylon strings for classical guitar.

some guitars can only take nylon.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (sunday_girl @ Mar 7 2005, 05:02 AM)
Hi everyone,
I am thinking of getting a new classical guitar, my problem is that all the ones that i have played sound awful other than very expensive ones that are way out of my price range.
has anyone here found a good medium priced classical that sounds and plays well. I would really like to try one, but have found the cost prohibitive and the necks seem very wide.
But they sound so nice when played well.

any advice and sorry for landing on this thread.

Rachel

and my brother uses savarenze(not sure about the spelling sorry)


classical necks are wider, which is a pain for some people as they've got small hands or short fingers or aren't used to stretching, but its easier for some people as you don't muffle other strings by accident.

i'm using an admira, a high range one, but they make pretty good ones at decent prices. stay away from yamaha classicals, the action on them is usually very high. i've never played a savarez classical so i can't very well comment on them.

make sure you go for a guitar that has at least a solid top though. then the sound will get better with time.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 07:47 AM

thanks dogpoo,
I will look out the admiral brand. just find those necks so wide.
but i do enjoy using my fingers to play they just make such a lovely
sound.
Picks are great but i prefer my fingers.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 05:03 PM

Admira is a good brand. I got my Juanita about 11 years ago, and it's not the best model they have, it's pretty basic. I have had no problems with that guitar and today it shows absolutely no traces of aging. It sounds just as good as 11 years ago, if not better with the slightly drier top wood.
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Posted 15 March 2005 - 12:51 AM

QUOTE (sunday_girl @ Mar 7 2005, 03:02 AM)
Hi everyone,
I am thinking of getting a new classical guitar, my problem is that all the ones that i have played sound awful other than very expensive ones that are way out of my price range.
has anyone here found a good medium priced classical that sounds and plays well. I would really like to try one, but have found the cost prohibitive and the necks seem very wide.
But they sound so nice when played well.

any advice and sorry for landing on this thread.

Rachel

and my brother uses savarenze(not sure about the spelling sorry)

Have a look at some tanglewoods. A good solid english acoustic guitar, I was impressed with their cost/performance ratio.

Also, talk to the local guitar person at your music store. They will recommend some good quality guitars in your price range. When you do go in to try these though, don't play the more expensive ones as you don't want to spoil your ears. Stick to trying what you can afford.
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Posted 15 March 2005 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE (dogpoo @ Mar 7 2005, 02:46 PM)
make sure you go for a guitar that has at least a solid top though. then the sound will get better with time.

I disagree. My seagull has a soft cedar top and every month it sounds a little bit mellower and a little bit sweeter.
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Posted 15 March 2005 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (strangerdanger @ Mar 15 2005, 06:52 PM)
QUOTE (dogpoo @ Mar 7 2005, 02:46 PM)

make sure you go for a guitar that has at least a solid top though. then the sound will get better with time.

I disagree. My seagull has a soft cedar top and every month it sounds a little bit mellower and a little bit sweeter.


wood ages with time, my admira has a cedar top too, but its solid. plywood doesn't age, so the tone won't get better.

a guitar with a solid top will have a different sound in two weeks. non-solids have the same sound all the time.

but i don't know, if you think your's sounds good thats fine smile.gif
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