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post Jun 4 2005, 08:28 PM
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Hey whats up everyone? I am trying to write this song and after the first verse I decided I needed some advice. I am wondering if its sounding to much like a poem. I would like some feed back. Any suggestions will help. Thanks Mike

Here it is:

Awaking to another dark day
Never seeing the light
Never knowing whats to come
Never seeing the lies

Then I am thinking of starting the 2nd Verse like:

What could I have done more...

I think I am running into trouble or I dont know where to go with it so any feedback will help.

If it helps at all I am focusing the song on My ex-girlfriend and me and never seeing all the things that were going wrong.

Thanks agian Mike
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post Jun 4 2005, 08:33 PM
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I have still yet to hear an adequate explanation as to what differentiates lyrics from poetry.


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post Jun 4 2005, 09:36 PM
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I have still yet to hear an adequate explanation as to what differentiates lyrics from poetry.
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post Jun 4 2005, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (deftones_liquid @ Jun 4 2005, 06:28 PM)
Hey whats up everyone? I am trying to write this song and after the first verse I decided I needed some advice. I am wondering if its sounding to much like a poem. I would like some feed back. Any suggestions will help. Thanks Mike

Here it is:

Awaking to another dark day
Never seeing the light
Never knowing whats to come
Never seeing the lies

Then I am thinking of starting the 2nd Verse like:

What could I have done more...

I think I am running into trouble or I dont know where to go with it so any feedback will help.

If it helps at all I am focusing the song on My ex-girlfriend and me and never seeing all the things that were going wrong.

Thanks agian Mike
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post Jun 4 2005, 10:14 PM
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oops sorry but thanks for the comments but what do you think of the song
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post Jun 4 2005, 10:56 PM
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you gave us one stanza of fairly normal imagery... four lines, what is there to say?

"Um, I like what you said about light" ?????

Give us a little more of your thoughts and we'll help you, but we can't write the song FOR you smile.gif

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post Jun 4 2005, 11:10 PM
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Fragmented thoughts are not easy to say much about.

I will note on what I have seen seems a bit cliché. Your writing this from an experience with a girlfriend you say. That area is a bit hard not to wonder into those cliché lines, but just be original.

Graeme, I think the difference between lyrics and poetry is that lyrics have music to them and usually poems don't. But I've heard poems with music which would make them songs, which would make them lyrics...


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post Jun 5 2005, 07:37 AM
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One of my favorite poems is Do Not Go Gentle by Dylan Thomas. Johnathan Cale has turned it into a song. Lyrics are poetry with music, as far as I am concerned. Anyone who says "That's too much like poetry" is talking gibberish to me.

Anyway. We don't generally do fragments of songs around here. You see, out of context it isn't worth much. We have no idea what the rest of the song will be like, so what's the point in looking at that small part?


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post Jun 5 2005, 01:36 PM
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Hey thanks for Everyones comments they have help and I am going to post more of the song today. Mike
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post Jun 5 2005, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Graeme! Yes @ Graeme!,Jun 4 2005, 06:33 PM)
I have still yet to hear an adequate explanation as to what differentiates lyrics from poetry.
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bah. Graeme, how many times have I told you?

Lyrics are poetry that is sung to music. It's that simple.

You keep forgetting, you silly man.


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post Jun 6 2005, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE (Will_Wood @ Jun 6 2005, 02:02 AM)
QUOTE (Graeme! Yes @ Graeme!,Jun 4 2005, 06:33 PM)
I have still yet to hear an adequate explanation as to what differentiates lyrics from poetry.
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bah. Graeme, how many times have I told you?

Lyrics are poetry that is sung to music. It's that simple.

You keep forgetting, you silly man.
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The words themselves are the same. It's not so much a difference as an addition. You know lyrics and poetry are the same, but some other people seem not to.


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post Jun 6 2005, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE (Graeme! Yes @ Graeme!,Jun 6 2005, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE (Will_Wood @ Jun 6 2005, 02:02 AM)
QUOTE (Graeme! Yes @ Graeme!,Jun 4 2005, 06:33 PM)
I have still yet to hear an adequate explanation as to what differentiates lyrics from poetry.
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bah. Graeme, how many times have I told you?

Lyrics are poetry that is sung to music. It's that simple.

You keep forgetting, you silly man.
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The words themselves are the same. It's not so much a difference as an addition. You know lyrics and poetry are the same, but some other people seem not to.
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Ahhh, well then

looks like we agree again.


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