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#1 User is offline   rayvon87 Icon

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 04:32 AM

Hi guys,
I realise this should probably be in the Tab Request forum, but I figured I'd probably get more help here.

I recently heard this song and I love it. I was wondering if anyone knows of or could point me towards a Tab for it? And if possible, in the easiest tuning possible.

Thanks
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 04:50 AM

rythm
CODE
E||------------------|------------------|--3----3----x--3--3----|
B||------------------|------------------|--5----5----x--5--5----|
G||------------------|------------------|--5----5----x--5--5----|
D||------------------|------------------|--5----5----x--5--5----|
A||------------------|------------------|--3----3----x--3--3----|
E||------------------|------------------|-----------------------|


 F                       F                       F                    
-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
--2----2----x--2--2----|--2----2----x--2--2----|--2----2----x----------|
--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x----------|
--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--3-------|
--1----1----x--1--1----|--1----1----x--1--1----|--1----1----x-----5----|


 C                       F                       F            C        
--3----3----x--3--3----|-----------------------|---------------3--3----|
--5----5----x--5--5----|-----------------------|---------------5--5----|
--5----5----x--5--5----|--2----2----x--2--2----|--2----2----x--5--5----|
--5----5----x--5--5----|--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--5--5----|
--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----x--3--3----|
-----------------------|--1----1----x--1--1----|--1----1----x----------|


 C                       C                 F                      
--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----3----x--1--|-------------------|
--5----5----x--5--5----|--5----5----5----x--1--|-------------------|
--5----5----x--5--5----|--5----5----5----x--2--|-------------------|
--5----5----x--5--5----|--5----5----5----x--3--|-------------------|
--3----3----x--3--3----|--3----3----3----x--3--|--------3----------|
-----------------------|--------------------1--|-------------------|


 C                      D                      F                        
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|----------------------|--------------------------|


 G                      C            G          D                    
--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3--3--3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5--3--5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--4----4----4----4----|--5----5----5--4--5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5----5----|--5----5----5--5--5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----3--5--3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--3----3----3----3----|---------------3-------|----------------------|


 F           E7           Am        G           C                    
--8-----8-----7----7----|--0----0----3--------|--3----3----3----3----|
--10----10----9----9----|--1----1----3--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----7----7----|--2----2----4--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----9----9----|--2----2----5--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--8-----8-----7----7----|--0----0----5--------|--3----3----3----3----|
------------------------|------------3--------|----------------------|


 F                      F                      F         C          
----------------------|----------------------|------------3----------|
----------------------|----------------------|------------5----------|
--2----2----2----2----|--2----2----2----2----|--2----2----5----------|
--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----5----------|
--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----------|
--1----1----1----1----|--1----1----1----1----|--1----1---------3/5---|


 C                      F                      F                    
--3----3----3----3----|----------------------|----------------------|
--5----5----5----5----|----------------------|----------------------|
--5----5----5----5----|--2----2----2----2----|--2----2----2----2----|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|
--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|
----------------------|--1----1----1----1----|--1----1----1----1----|


 F         C             C                 F           C          
------------3----------|--3----3----3----x--1--|--------3----------|
------------5----------|--5----5----5----x--1--|--------5----------|
--2----2----5----------|--5----5----5----x--2--|--------5----------|
--3----3----5----------|--5----5----5----x--3--|--------5----------|
--3----3----3----------|--3----3----3----x--3--|--------3----------|
--1----1---------3/5---|--------------------1--|-------------------|


 C            C#/A      D                       F                        
--3----3----3--4------|--5----5----5--5--5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5--6------|--7----7----7--5--5----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5--6------|--7----7----7--6--6----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5--6------|--7----7----7--7--7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3--0------|--5----5----5--7--7----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|---------------5--5----|--------------------------|


 G                      C                      D                    
--3----3----3----3----|--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--4----4----4----4----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5----5----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--3----3----3----3----|----------------------|----------------------|


 F         E7          A7        G    G A      C                    
--8---------7--------|--0---------3----3/5---|--3----3----3----3----|
--10--------9--------|--2---------3----3/5---|--5----5----5----5----|
--10--------7--------|--0---------4----4/6---|--5----5----5----5----|
--10--------9--------|--2---------5----5/7---|--5----5----5----5----|
--8---------7--------|--0---------5----5/7---|--3----3----3----3----|
---------------------|---------3--3----3/5---|----------------------|


 F                          F                          F                G  A  
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------4/-6--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------5/-7--|
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------5/-7--|
--------------------------|--------------------------|-------------------3/-5--|


 C                      F                          F                        
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|--------------------------|--------------------------|


 F                G  A     C                 F                      
--8-----8---3------3/-5--|--3----3----3----x--1--|-------------------|
--10----10--5------3/-5--|--5----5----5----x--1--|-------------------|
--10----10--5------4/-6--|--5----5----5----x--2--|-------------------|
--10----10--5------5/-7--|--5----5----5----x--3--|-------------------|
--8-----8---3------5/-7--|--3----3----3----x--3--|--------3----------|
-------------------3/-5--|--------------------1--|-------------------|


 C                        D                         F                        
--3----3----3--x--3--x--|--5--x--5--x--5--x--5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3--x--3--x--|--5--x--5--x--5--x--5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
------------------------|-------------------------|--------------------------|


       G                 C                        D                      
--8--------------------|--3----3----3--x--3--x--|--5--x--5--x--5--x--5----|
--10-------------------|--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|
--10----4----4----4----|--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|
--10----5----5----5----|--5----5----5--x--5--x--|--7--x--7--x--7--x--7----|
--8-----5----5----5----|--3----3----3--x--3--x--|--5--x--5--x--5--x--5----|
--------3----3----3----|------------------------|-------------------------|


 F           E7               Am       Gadd9   C                    
--8-----8-----7----7----|------0--------5----|--3----3----3----3----|
--10----10----9----9----|------1--------3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----7----7----|------2--------4----|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----9----9----|------2--------5----|--5----5----5----5----|
--8-----8-----7----7----|------0-------------|--3----3----3----3----|
------------------------|--------------------|----------------------|


 F                          F                                      C          
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----3----3----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----5----5----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----5----5----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----5----5----|
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----3----3----|
--------------------------|--------------------------|------------------------|


 C                      F                          F                        
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|--------------------------|--------------------------|


 F                G  A     C                 F           C          
--8-----8---3------3/-5--|--3----3----3----x--1--|--------3----------|
--10----10--5------3/-5--|--5----5----5----x--1--|--------5----------|
--10----10--5------4/-6--|--5----5----5----x--2--|--------5----------|
--10----10--5------5/-7--|--5----5----5----x--3--|--------5----------|
--8-----8---3------5/-7--|--3----3----3----x--3--|--------3----------|
-------------------3/-5--|--------------------1--|-------------------|


 C                      D                      F                        
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|----------------------|--------------------------|


 G              Gadd9   C                      D                    
-----------------5----|--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|
-----------------3----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--4----4----4----4----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5----5----|--5----5----5----5----|--7----7----7----7----|
--5----5----5---------|--3----3----3----3----|--5----5----5----5----|
--3----3----3---------|----------------------|----------------------|


 F           E7           Am        G           C                    
--8-----8-----7----7----|--0----0----5--------|--3----3----3----3----|
--10----10----9----9----|--1----1----3--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----7----7----|--2----2----4--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----9----9----|--2----2----5--------|--5----5----5----5----|
--8-----8-----7----7----|--0----0-------------|--3----3----3----3----|
------------------------|---------------------|----------------------|


 F                          F                          F                G  A  
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------4/-6--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------5/-7--|
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------5/-7--|
--------------------------|--------------------------|-------------------3/-5--|


 C                      F                          F                        
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|
--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
----------------------|--------------------------|--------------------------|


 F                G  A     C                      F                        
--8-----8---3------3/-5--|--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
--10----10--5------3/-5--|--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|
--10----10--5------4/-6--|--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|
--10----10--5------5/-7--|--5----5----5----5----|--10----10----10----10----|
--8-----8---3------5/-7--|--3----3----3----3----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|
-------------------3/-5--|----------------------|--------------------------|


 F                          F                G  A     C                    
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------3/-5--|--3----3----3----3----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------3/-5--|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------4/-6--|--5----5----5----5----|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------5/-7--|--5----5----5----5----|
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------5/-7--|--3----3----3----3----|
--------------------------|-------------------3/-5--|----------------------|


 F                          F                          F                G  A  
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------3/-5--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------4/-6--|
--10----10----10----10----|--10----10----10----10----|--10----10--5------5/-7--|
--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8-----8-----8-----|--8-----8---3------5/-7--|
--------------------------|--------------------------|-------------------3/-5--|


 C                      Bb        F                                        
--3----3----3----3----|------------1----1----|--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----1----1----|--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----2----2----|--2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-2-|
--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----3----3----|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|
--3----3----3----3----|--1----1----3----3----|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|
----------------------|------------1----1----|--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|


 F             C                       Csus4  C      Csus4  
--1--x-x-1--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|--3--x-x----x-x-3--x-x----x-x-|
--1--x-x-1--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|--5--x-x-6--x-x-0--x-x-6--x-x-|
--2--x-x-2--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|--5--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-x-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|--5--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-x-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|
--1--x-x-1--x-x----x-x----x---|------------------------------|


 Bb            F                                            
-----x-x----x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-|--2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|
--1--x-x-1--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|
----------------1------1------|--1------1------1------1------|


                                C                      Bb        F          
--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|--3----3----3----3----|------------1----1----|
--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-|--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----1----1----|
--2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-|--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----2----2----|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|--5----5----5----5----|--3----3----3----3----|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-|--3----3----3----3----|--1----1----3----3----|
--1------1------1------1------|----------------------|------------1----1----|


                                F             C              
--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|--1--x-x-1--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|
--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|--1--x-x-1--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|
--2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-x-2--x-2-|--2--x-x-2--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|--3--x-x-3--x-x-5--x-x-5--x-5-|
--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|--3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-x-3--x-3-|
--1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-x-1--x-1-|--1--x-x-1--x-x----x-x----x---|


        Csus4  C      Csus4     Bb            F              
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----7-------------------|--10/-0--------10------|--10/-0------------------|
------------------------|-----------------------|--8/--0------------------|
------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------|


                                                                             
------------------------|-------------------------|--8------8----------------|
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------------------------|------------10-----------|--------------------7-----|
------------------------|-------------------------|-----------------------8--|
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----------------------|----------------------|---------------------------|
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-------------------------|----------------------------|--8--------------------|
-------------------------|----------------------------|--8-------------8------|
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--10/--0-----12----------|--11/-12--12----12--14------|--10--------10---------|
--8/---0-----------------|--9/--10--10----10--10------|-----------------------|
-------------------------|----------------------------|-----------------------|


                                                                           
-------------------------|--------------------------|----------------------|
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--9----------------------|--------------------------|----------------------|
-------------------------|--------------------------|----------------------|


                                                                           
-----------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|
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-----------------------|--8/---0-----------------|--10/--0-----------------|
-----------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|


                                                                             
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----------------8/9--------|--9/---0-------9-------|--9/---0-------10----10--|
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---------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------|
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--10----10----10--10--------|--------------------|-----------------------11/12-|
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 07:34 AM

Either im playing it wrong or the prik is because i dont play it anything like that.
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE (rayvon87 @ Oct 28 2005, 06:32 AM)
Hi guys,
I realise this should probably be in the Tab Request forum, but I figured I'd probably get more help here.

I recently heard this song and I love it. I was wondering if anyone knows of or could point me towards a Tab for it? And if possible, in the easiest tuning possible.

Thanks


John Hurt did two versions of a similar tune. One he called "Casey Jones" and the other he called "Talkin' Casey" (slide, "...don't leave me here..." etc). Each was done in a different style.

"Casey Jones" was a fingerstyle in standard tuning in the key of A (although I think he capoed on the first or second fret to Ab or B ). It's an eight-bar (eight 4/4 paired couplets) I-IV-II-V progression. He used the chords A, D, B and E played fingerstyle.

"Talkin' Casey" he did in open-G tuning DGDGBD. John played knife-slide. It's a very primative kind of slide (my mentor John Jackson, who was good friends with John Hurt, played slide the same way). The slide lines with knife-slide are always very simple. Usually on just the first (and ocassionally second) strings, with an alternating thumb acompaniement on the other strings.

Knife-slide is usually a very delicate gentle kind of slide. It was played usually with a pocket-knife, the blade opened half-way and held between the fingers (usually pinky and ring) and the actual sliding was done with the handle, which used to commonly be made of brass way back then. As brass-handled pocket knives became less common it gradually faded from use. John Jackson switched to a silver butter-knife handle, the blade removed, held between his pinky and ring. John (Jackson) was not what one might call a slide-master bluesman like say Fred McDowell or Bukka White maybe. Neither was John Hurt, but both could lay down a beautiful haunting slide tune when they wanted. John Jackson did "Talkin' Casey" and a very primative (I use that word in the most complimentary way) version of "John Henry" using knife-slide.

Band-leader WC Handy mentioned his first time ever hearing blues played in this way in 1903 as he waited for a train one night in an empty train-station in Tutwiler, Mississippi in his autobiography...

"... a lean, loose-jointed Negro had commenced plunking a guitar beside me while I slept. His clothes were rags, his feet peeped out of his shoes. His face had on it the sadness of the ages. As he played, he pressed a knife on the strings of the guitar. The effect was unforgettable. His song struck me instantly... "Goin' ta' where the Southern cross' the dog..."


(I remember that passage because it is the earliest known recorded reference to using a slide for blues guitar.)

Casey Jones is the subject of a number of old blues-tunes and folk tunes. The old bluesman Furry Lewis also did an excellent version in fingerstyle and slide. Probably the best version I've ever heard (and I've heard lots) was taught to me by an old fiddler/guitarist from (honest... this is the name of the place) Beaver Bottom, Kentucky. He used an unusual tuning (first time I'd ever seen it) he called "Scotch-B" which is an altered (not open) tuning E F# B F# B E.


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Anyway, that's how you'd approach John Hurt's "Casey Jones" and "Talkin' Casey."
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 02:24 PM

Is this the same "Casey Jones" song that the Greatful Dead performed?
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 02:37 PM

Nope, the Dead's tune is another one altogether. There are lots of different "Casey Joneses"! (Just looking at it, that might be what Prik's tab is.)
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (adds @ Oct 28 2005, 08:34 AM)
Either im playing it wrong or the prik is because i dont play it anything like that.

i just took it strait from a guitar pro tab, sounds a ok there, but the rythm seems to be played with all downstrokes. the lead kicks ass
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (theprik @ Oct 28 2005, 07:45 PM)
QUOTE (adds @ Oct 28 2005, 08:34 AM)
Either im playing it wrong or the prik is because i dont play it anything like that.

i just took it strait from a guitar pro tab, sounds a ok there, but the rythm seems to be played with all downstrokes. the lead kicks ass

Seems we are playing different tunes im thinking Mississippi john hurt here.
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (adds @ Oct 28 2005, 03:48 PM)
QUOTE (theprik @ Oct 28 2005, 07:45 PM)
QUOTE (adds @ Oct 28 2005, 08:34 AM)
Either im playing it wrong or the prik is because i dont play it anything like that.

i just took it strait from a guitar pro tab, sounds a ok there, but the rythm seems to be played with all downstrokes. the lead kicks ass

Seems we are playing different tunes im thinking Mississippi john hurt here.

ooh ok i was talking the grateful dead.. i think i may be on the wrong page here
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 11:26 PM

Yeah, I was looking for the Mississippi John Hurt version of 'Casey Jones' (I haven't actually heard 'Talkin' Casey').

Thanks for your time anyway, theprik, I might try to track that song down anyway.

Thanks for the info DADFAD. I really enjoy hearing about all the old Blues legends and techniques. That knife-slide part was fascinating, just a sort of make-do thing isn't it.

So, is there actually a tab for 'Casey Jones' in standard, I really love the way MJH plays it? I think I came across that 'Scotch-B' version in an old post. How would I tune to that? (I'm no good with this sort of stuff...)

Another song of MJH's I really like is C.C. Rider, such a nice melody line. So if you guys know of a tab for that, I'd be grateful.

Thanks

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 01:08 AM

So, any tabs?

Anyone?

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:48 PM

I'll tab a progression of it. I'll do it in G. Like I mentioned above, he did it in A but capoed a fret to A# too. Let me also say he recorded the tune at least four times. I have (buried somewhere in my records) at least two of them. I first learned it in A (A#) off the LP by Rounder Records he recorded around 1964. I also have another old LP (by Gyphon Records in '63) where he did it in G. He has others with that tune on it (and also on several "live" recordings, including one recorded in Washington DC of him and John Jackson together). He has even recorded it under the title of "K.C. Jones." I think (not positive but pretty sure, having heard it on the radio several times) that the version on his newer "Greatest Hits" CDs is in G. It can be done in either and isn't too difficult to transpose the lines from one key to another. He may have also done that A# version capoed on the 3rd fret and then played "as if" in G (which would make it in A# too.) Actually, it's probably slightly more easily played in G than A anyway. I can do it in either key but I'm gonna use G unless you prefer otherwise.
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Posted 03 November 2005 - 01:25 AM

No, G is fine.
Thank you very much for doing this. I just really love this song and I really want to know how to play it. I hope I'm not being a bother.

I was playing along with the capo on 1st and I noticed when I did an E (i'm not quite sure what that is with a capo. F?) it sounded like the first chord of the version I have. I think A (B-flat?) was the second chord, and F# (G?) was there as well. I couldn't figure out the other chords though.

Thanks very much for your time.
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Posted 03 November 2005 - 12:26 PM

To be honest I'd never tried it in E (or another capoed E-style). I guess either his key of G or A (A#) versions could also have been capoed farther up the neck still and then played "as if" in E. I just tried it with a guitar here in my office and it wasn't really any harder to play in E than in G. (By the way, when I say something like "in E" I'm meaning using chord-shapes like playing it in E, with or without a capo. Not "Key of E.") So, I just tried playing it in G (as I always have) and then capoed the third-fret and played it in E. They both sounded almost identical.

I think it was slightly easier to make the change from the I-chord to the II-chord (with those walking-bass notes) using G (G to A) than using E (E to F#), but that might just be because I've used G for so many years for that tune in John Hurt's version. (Actually, whenever I do the tune playing out and have no reason to specifically use John Hurt's style, I do the tune in the key of B using that "Scotch-B" tuning.)

Anyway, I'll do a round in G.
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 01:15 AM

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Posted 04 November 2005 - 10:13 AM

(I think I solved the "mystery" of the recording you have in the key of F. I found one in my records last night at home in the key of F that he did on a 12-string guitar. It was probably tuned down a whole step and then played as if in G. That's probably the version you're talking about!)
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:52 AM

check www.rukind.org

(could be .com but i am pretty sure its .org)
they have every dead song along with the solos and intros (where applicable) tabbed, the tab here is correct but he didnt provide the solos orn intro, i have a copy of it but it would be easier for you to go there

its not an acoustic song however, both Jerry and Bob are playing electric in that ong but it can be played acousticlly with no probs.


edit: oops sorry just figured out ths wasn't the song you were looking for. ph34r.gif

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Posted 05 November 2005 - 01:05 AM

Ah yes, now I understand.
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Posted 06 November 2005 - 02:39 AM

Also, DADFAD, what do you know about the song See See Rider (CC Rider)? Do you know of a tab for it?

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 07:40 AM

Here's what I have for one of Mississippi John Hurt's recordings of "Casey Jones". I didn't go into every finger/string detail like I did on some tunes I've tabbed. I can if you want me too, but the whole thing can be played with the thumb and index and for the most part it's easy to see which is used where ( except a couple of brief places where the thumb might drop down to the higher strings too and pick with the index). I'm working on another tune for someone and so I figured I'd add the really detailed notes to the tab-lines on this one later so I can get it posted here now, so if you want them just let me know. Anyway here's the Sound Click Link and here's the tab for it: (And as usual, comments on how well the tab helps are appreciated)...

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CASEY JONES
Traditional
as recorded by Mississippi John Hurt, 1963
(On Rounder Records' "Mississippi John Hurt: Legend")

Casey Jones was a brave engineer,
He told his fireman not to fear
Said, "All I want's my water and my coal
Look out the window, see my drive wheel roll"

Early one mornin' came a shower of rain,
'Round the curve I seen a passenger train.
In the cabin was Casey Jones,
He's a noble engineerman but he's dead and gone.

"Children, children, get your hat"
"Mama, mama, what you mean by that?"
"Get your hat , put it on your head,
Go down in town, see if your daddy's dead"

"Mama, mama, how can it be?
My daddy got killed on the old I.C."
"Hush your mouth and hold your breath,
You're gonna draw a pension on your daddy's death"

Casey's wife, she got the news,
She was sittin' on the bedside,
She was lacin' up her shoes
"I said go away, children, and hold your breath,
You're gonna draw a pension on your daddy's death."

Casey said, before he died,
"Fix the blinds so the boys can't ride
If they ride, let 'em ride the rod,
Trust their lives in the hands of God"

Casey said again, before he died,
"One more road that he wanted to ride."
People wondered what road could that be?
The Gulf Colorado and the Santa Fe.

Casey Jones was a brave engineer,
He told his fireman to not to fear
Says, "All I want's my water and my coal
Look out the window, see my drive wheel roll"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chords:

[G]Casey Jones was a [C]brave engi[G]neer,
He told his fireman [A]not to [D]fear
Says,[G]"All I want's my [C]water and my [G]coal
[G]Look out the window, see my drive wheel roll"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In the TRUE key of Ab, but he capoed on the 3rd fret
and then played as if in G. Using G 320003; C X32010;
"Long-A" X02225; and D X00232 (from the capo). I did
the same thing on my tabbed sound-byte section. The
entire tune can be played using the thumb and index
fingers to pick with. The G is best held RMOOOP to
make changes on the 1st-string easier, and also for
switching to the C-chord X32010 XRMOIO. Your index
finger will move between both the 5 and 6 string on
that one, the pinky adds notes on and off the 1 and
2 strings on the 3rd-fret. The D-chord is however
you prefer to hold it. The "long-A" chord is made
by barring the 2nd-fret strings 1,2,3 and 4 with
the index and adding the pinky on the 1st-string,
5th-fret. Generally the thumb will play the bassier
strings and the index the treblier ones, however in
a few brief parts (like in the last G-sections) it
easier to use both the thumb and index in the treble-
string area. And that's about it...

(Timing is in seconds, on the end slower-played section)




E)--3------3--0-----3-------1----------<(in G)------
B}-------------------------------------(1:15-1:19)--
G)----(0)-------0-------0------0--------------------
D)-----0--------0-------0------0--------------------
A)---------2----------------------------------------
E)--3-----------------3-----3-----------------------

E)--0-----0---0----<(in C)-----
B}----------3------(1:19-1:21)---
G)-----0-------------------------
D)-----2------2------------------
A)--3----------------------------
E)--------3----------------------

E)--3-----3--0-----3---<(in G)-------------------------------------------
B}---------------------(1:21-1:24)---------------------------------------
G)-----0--------0--------------------------------------------------------
D)-----0--------0----------------(bass-walk into A 1:24-1:26))-----------
A)-----------------------------------------------------------------2--1--
E)--3-----3--------3--------------------------------------------3--------

E)----------5------2----------------------------2----------<(in A and D)
B}----2--------------------(to D)------3-----------3--------(1:26-1:29)
G)-------------------(2)---------------2-----------2--------
D)-------2------------2-------------0-----------------------
A)-0------------0--------------------------0----------------
E)----------------------------------------------------------

E)--3------3--0-----3-------1----------<(in G)----
B}-------------------------------------(1:29-1:32)--
G)----(0)-------0-------0------0--------------------
D)-----0--------0-------0------0--------------------
A)---------2----------------------------------------
E)--3-----------------3-----3-----------------------

E)--0-----0---0----<(in C)---------(to G)>--3-------------------
B}----------3------(1:32-1:33)---(1:33-1:35)------------0-------
G)-----0-----------------------------------------0-----------0--
D)-----2------2----------------------------------0-----------0--
A)--3-----------------------------------------------------------
E)--------3-----------------------------------3------3----------

E)------0-----3-------0-----------3----------------------<(still in G)-
B}--3-------------------------3-----------------0---------(1:35-1:38)--
G)---------0-------------0-----------0---3----------0------------------
D)---------0-------------0-----------0--------------0------------------
A)---------------------------------------------------------------------
E)--3-------------3------------3-----------3---------------------------

E)-----------------------------------------------<(still in G)-
B}------0-------------0----------------------------(1:39-1:41)-
G)--3----------3---------------0-------0-----------------------
D)---------0---------------0-----------0-----------------------
A)-------------------------------------------------------------
E)--3-------------3----------------3---------------------------

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