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Posted 29 July 2006 - 03:37 PM

I am working out a song by CCR and I'm trying to do a chord run from a D to an A. I have the base notes, but I'm looking for the fill ins in between. The original recording only has the base run, so the recording is no help. Also if anyone has any other runs they would like to share, I'm always looking for stuff to fill space being the leader of a one man band..... guitar.gif

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 04:27 PM

I'm not quite sure what you mean by chord run, but it sounds like you are looking for a snappy transition between the two chords. If it sounds right, you could do something like this:

play the D chord (normal open shape)
then play notes of C#, B, and A on A string, leading to A chord (also open shape)
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 06:57 AM

What key is the tune in? (I assume D or A). (Or which tune.)
Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 09:31 AM

Lodi is the song. Its in Bb, but I'm playing it capoed at the 3rd fret. I have the base line on the 5th string worked out, but what I'm talking about are the notes inbetween the base notes that are played on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th strings as you step down the base line.

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 12:47 PM

bump.....still need some help.
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Posted 03 August 2006 - 02:54 PM

I started messing around with it when you first posted, trying to fit some chords/fingerstyle in around a walking-bass type line for parts of the tune. Then I started thinking that it may not even be what you want at all (and meant to ask you for further clarification but forgot). Can you give me a specific part or parts of the tune where you mean? I'm going to put a chorded verse below both in the true-key of Bb as well as the capoed-on-third/played as if in G chorded verse below. (I assume that's what you meant when you said you capoed it on the 3rd-fret. That's probably how the recording was done.) Anyway, that might help show me which specific area(s) you're talking about.
CODE
Licks for key of G



(Walking the bass, arpeggiationg through this line....)

{G}                {D/3}                {Em}
-[3]-----------------[2]-----------------[0]---------------------------
-[3]-(3)--3----------[3]--3---3-------3--[0]-----0-----0---------------
-[0]---------0-------[2]---------2-------[0]--------0--------(0)-------
-[0]---------0-------[0]---------0-------[2]--------2--------(2)-------
-[2]-----------------[0]-----------------[2]------------------2--------
-[3]----3------------[3]----2------------[0]--0-----------0------------

....Things...got.......bad.......and.........things...got...worse.....


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

First verse chorded in key of Bb

Bb                       Eb             Bb
Just about a year ago, I set out on the road.

                    Gm           Eb                   F
Seekin' my fame and fortune, I'm lookin' for a pot of gold.

Bb                 Gm                  Eb                 Bb
Things got bad and things got worse, I guess you know the tune,

             F              Eb                     Bb
Oh Lord, I'm stuck in Lodi again.



+ + + + + + +

Same verse now transposed (Capoed on 3rd-Fret, played "as if" in G = Still Key of Bb (True Pitch)

Chord-positions shown are positions from the capo:


G                      C              G  
Just about a year ago, I set out on the road.

                 Em            C                    D  
Seekin' my fame and fortune, I'm lookin' for a pot of gold.

Bb                 Em                  C                  G
Things got bad and things got worse, I guess you know the tune,

             D              C         G
Oh Lord, I'm stuck in Lodi again.

Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend

When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
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Posted 04 August 2006 - 09:02 AM

Thanks for the post what im looking for is more of a fill in wether an arpeggio or something else in the end where he sings "Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again". With everything capoed on 3rd position, I start off in the key of A and then in the last verse I change keys to G. During the first verses, since I'm in A, at the end of the last line I'm stepping down from a D to an A. I'm pretty comfortable in arpeggio stepdowns in G, where you commonly step down from C to G, but I have never done one from D to A, and when I make the notes sound "correct" it puts my fingers in a very awkward position to finish it off, so I was looking to see if anyone had an easier or better way. To me, it seems I'm making it a lot harder than what it should be, so I figured I might be doing something wrong or it could be done better. I hope this makes sense, that is the damnest thing about this internet stuff, sometimes when you think you know what you are saying, no one else does..... doh.gif

BTW, would is still be called an arpeggioed stepdown if you dont go in order on the strings. Sometimes to add a little variety I will play the middle first, then the first second, etc.

Thanks for the help!!!

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 05:59 PM

Okay, here are a couple of possible things to make that transition from D into A that I've come up with. It's hard to show the timing (almost completely within that single word "again") and to show exactly the techniques I meant but I've tried as best I could. Try them slowly, mess around with them (even alter them) and see what you can come up with or decide which way to go, depending on what "feel" you're going for. I hope they help a bit or give you a few ideas.

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(Transposed into key of A)

[A]Just about a year ago, I [D]set out on the [A]road

Seekin' my fame and [F#m]fortune, [Bm]looking for a pot of [E]gold

[A]Things got bad an' [F#m]Things got worse, I [D]Guess you all know the [A]tune,

Oh lord, [E]stuck in Lodi a[D]gain * [A]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

*(a couple of possible ways to make the transition from D to A)

Arpegiate (from E) to D/3-bass through E to A....

E)---------------------------------------------------
B}------------------------------------(2)------------
G)----------------(2)--------(1)-------2-------------
D)-----------------0----------2------2---------------
A)---------------0----------2------0-----------------
E)---------0---2----------0--------------------------
...in Lodi a--gain

Use the thumb to get the 6-string of D/3-bass
to partial E and to A.


or try these chord/hammer combinations (slightly more "country" feeling)...

E)-----------2-----------------------------------
B}-----------3---(3)-----------------------------
G)----------2h4---2-----(1)-----2----------------
D)-----------0----0------2------2----------------
A)----------------0------2-----2h4---------------
E)-----------------------0-----------------------
..in Lodi a--gain

Hold the simple D-chord normally and hammer
the 3-string 2h4 with your pinky and off again...

Form the partial E-chord into the A-chord in
one of two ways (which ever feels easiest or
has the sympathetic tones you like best):

a] Just form a normal-E 022100 and change quickly
into this X22222X bar with the index, then hammering
the 5-string 2h4 with the ring (into an A/3-bass)

b] Or hold a partial E barring 02222X (using only
the 022xxx E-fragment, then hammering into that A/3-bass
X4222x.

Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend

When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 08:29 AM

That's what I was looking for. Thanks!!!
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