For you acoustic blues fans, the following site is a must-see! Free tabs, mp3 files, history on Mississippi John Hurt. Avalon Blues brought this artist to the forefront. Mississippi John Hurt wasn't really considered a blues man. He recorded a couple of songs in the 20s, then quietly retired to sharecropping in Avalon MS until the 60's. I believe it was Pete Seeger who found him. At any rate, he was brought back to the forefront and appeared at College Campus functions for three years until his death. Probably the words of his biggest hit, Avalon Blues tells it all:
"Avalon my home town, always on my mind,
Avalon my home town, always on my mind,
Pretty mama's in Avalon, want me there all the time"
John Hurt was an excellent fingerstyle guitarist. If you do nothing else on this link, check out that section. Keep in mind, John used open tunings.
http://www.msjohnhur....com/music.html
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Mississippi John Hurt
#2
Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:46 AM
Good, topic Jim. I myself would also call John Hurt more of a minstrel than a bluesman. His fingerstyle is perfectly executed, as clean as it gets. Most of his music is gentle and easy and as you mentioned he played in open-tunings as well as standard. I never met the man, but I wish I had. He sounds like he was a really nice guy as well as a fine guitarist. He and John Jackson were close friends. I think of him as maybe being a lot like John (J)... kind, wise, and a tremendous player. In my mind's eye when I think of John Hurt, I almost think of John Jackson wearing John Hurt's face with John Hurt's voice. Hard to explain. John (Jackson) also thought of himself as more of a minstrel than a "bluesman" because his repetoire and audiences was so variable. John used to like to tell the story of when he first met John Hurt.
They met playing the same Washington DC club in the early 60s folk revival. John (J) was playing on a Friday night and John (H) was going to play on Saturday. John (Jackson) said when John (Hurt) walked in and saw him for the first time, he (Jackson) was on stage doing "Candyman" which was one of John Hurt's old tunes. He (Jackson) said John (Hurt) walked up to him after the set, introduced himself, and said "When I walked in here I thought that was ME up there singin' Candyman" . And then John (Jackson) would always laugh after telling that story.
Many years ago I first went to try to find John Hurt's grave and pay my respects. Of course I started looking in Avalon. It was really hard to find, but I eventually found it (couple of stories in that particular "adventure" but I (for once!) won't get into it now). Once, a while back on my way to New Orleans, I happened to pay my respects to both John Hurt's and Robert Johnson's graves on the same day. John Hurt's resting place is on a quiet hillside in a piney-woods, shaded and peaceful, among his loved-ones. If you sit still at the foot of his grave, in the quietness of that secluded green place, sqirrels play and crickets chirp. Looking at his headstone, you see tarnished pennies and pocket change among the pine cones, left by those like me paying respects to a gentle minstrel. In stark contrast not many miles away is the grave of Robert Johnson, where the Mississippi sun beats down unmercifully on the burned dry earth of the barren graveyard, dust-devils blowing up from the road, as if to contrast the music put forth by two very different souls.
John Hurt was a master. His stuff, while simple, is still deceptively difficult to master because of the perfect (perfect) timing and flawless execution.
Good post, Jim.
They met playing the same Washington DC club in the early 60s folk revival. John (J) was playing on a Friday night and John (H) was going to play on Saturday. John (Jackson) said when John (Hurt) walked in and saw him for the first time, he (Jackson) was on stage doing "Candyman" which was one of John Hurt's old tunes. He (Jackson) said John (Hurt) walked up to him after the set, introduced himself, and said "When I walked in here I thought that was ME up there singin' Candyman" . And then John (Jackson) would always laugh after telling that story.
Many years ago I first went to try to find John Hurt's grave and pay my respects. Of course I started looking in Avalon. It was really hard to find, but I eventually found it (couple of stories in that particular "adventure" but I (for once!) won't get into it now). Once, a while back on my way to New Orleans, I happened to pay my respects to both John Hurt's and Robert Johnson's graves on the same day. John Hurt's resting place is on a quiet hillside in a piney-woods, shaded and peaceful, among his loved-ones. If you sit still at the foot of his grave, in the quietness of that secluded green place, sqirrels play and crickets chirp. Looking at his headstone, you see tarnished pennies and pocket change among the pine cones, left by those like me paying respects to a gentle minstrel. In stark contrast not many miles away is the grave of Robert Johnson, where the Mississippi sun beats down unmercifully on the burned dry earth of the barren graveyard, dust-devils blowing up from the road, as if to contrast the music put forth by two very different souls.
John Hurt was a master. His stuff, while simple, is still deceptively difficult to master because of the perfect (perfect) timing and flawless execution.
Good post, Jim.
Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
#3
Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:55 AM
QUOTE (dadfad @ Nov 8 2006, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was really hard to find, but I eventually found it (couple of stories in that particular "adventure" but I (for once!) won't get into it now).
Come on John, you know how much we enjoy your stories.
#4
Posted 08 November 2006 - 02:03 PM
Maybe thirty-five or so years ago, I'm driving down a two-lane between Grenada and Greenwood. I pass a little sign on the road that just says "Avalon" on it so I drive about another five miles and don't see a town yet so I stop at a feed-store on the side of the road and ask. The man says "You passed it. It ain't exactly what I'd call a town. Just a place on the road. There's a tractor-parts yard and a filling-station and that's about it." So back I go and I find it. Just a dirt cross-road. Now a few days earlier my "connection" back in Memphis told me he was pretty sure John was buried in Avalon, so I ask at the gas-station there if there was a church in Avalon (as usually church-yard cemeteries were often used). He say's no but there's an old colored cemetery up that road (nodding off toward a dirt road that U's off from the dirt-road crossing the blacktop road, heading up a hillside). "It's no more than five miles up there. It's just off the road. You probably can't see it unless you get out and look. I think it's on the down-hill side." he says. So I start off up that U-fork. Now this is the Spring rainey-season. Waaaaay up the hill is a lumber company (i saw a little sign when I started up the road.). Their trucks use that road. This road is at least six inches deep in red-mud (reminded me of Woodstock
Another four miles of "screacmmmrrchhhh"'s later, I get to where the U meets the regular dirt road. It's starting to get dark a little. I get out to look at the under-side of my car to see what's done and what's left. The rest of the exhaust system is bent back the wrong way (facing forward) and dragging, the manifold seems to be okay. I figure I'll let it cool down a few minutes and then try to climb under and tear the pipe loose. While I'm standing there, an old pick-up truck pulls up. A guy inside, looks about thirty-five-ish (older than me then) asks if he can help me. I ask if he knows where there's an old colored-cemetery nearby. He says "You lookin' for John Hurt's grave?" And I say "Yeah" He says "We get a few up here every once in awhile lookin' for it. Mostly hippies or musicians. (I believe that I probably in his opinion would qualify as one or both.) "It's about five or six miles up that road (I'd just come back down). Hop in, I'll show you exactly where it is." So I hopped in.
It didn't make me feel especially comfortable to see he had a .45 laying on his front seat. The movie "Easy Rider" was still a new release. About a year before I'd been picked up and given a "Yazoo County Hair-cut" and courtesy-lodgings for a couple of days by Yazoo's finest for "bein' up ta no good on the colored side of the tracks" (translation: visiting bluesman Jack Owens). But he seemed friendly enough and besides, now I was already "committed." So he heads off up that same road which is no problem in his truck. It's near dark now and I'm looking at that .45 on the seat and the sun almost gone ("...sun goin' down, black dark gonna catch me here..."
And so I said I probably would. I told him my muffler system was gone and asked where was the closest place I could get a room. He said if I wanted to sleep in my car I could pull it up in his property. I said how close is the nearest cheap place to stay with a garage nearby because I was gonna need some work on my car anyway and might as well get an early start on it. He said I'd best head towards Grenada (north), several places to stay on the way with service-stations nearby, and besides the Greenwood (south) police were bad about cars with plates from up-north, especially loud ones. And so I thanked him again. Headed north, found a cheap motel right next to a gas station just before Grenada. The next morning at the gas station they "hooked me up" cheap with metal flexible-tubing and a bunch of clamps and got my car quiet again (better than it was before). I went back to Avalon. I drove perfectly up that hill-side. My bottom still rubbed a little but not as bad as before since everything was now clamped up tight. I got out with my guitar and went exactly to the right place (barely getting muddy at all). I found his grave easily and sat in the shade at the foot of it and played a couple of his tunes ("Let the Mermaids Play With Me" was one of them, I don't remember the other) and tossed the change from my pocket on his headstone... the honor one gives to a dead minstrel... and left. I found the turnaround up the road a little farther and got back down the hillside just fine. I decided to take him up on that introduction to Miss Lucille. I found his house easily (the only fairly modern one on the little circular road). I had a cup of coffee and some biscuits and gravy with him and his wife and then followed him with my car in his truck to her house. We went up to the door and he tipped his hat when she answered. He introduced me as "another admirer of your brother-in-law come to visit" and I thanked him again as he left. She invited me inside her tiny little house (if you stood in the middle of it you could almost touch either wall if you stretched out your arms straight). There was another older Black man there sitting there on an old couch. She introduced him to me as a neighbor from across the road. She insisted I let her make me a fresh pot of coffee. (It was chicory, as she probably couldn't afford real coffee. My first "experience" with chicory having been a year or so earlier with my breakfast-grits at my "courtesy lodging" provided by the Yazoo police.) We talked... about John, the weather, what a turd Nixon was, things in general. When I was leaving I tried to diplomatically leave her a little money. I didn't have much, but it looked like she had a lot less. I asked if she'd mind if I left a few dollars with her to maybe pay for a few flowers for her to put on John's and her husband's grave from time to time as a token of my respect for his music. She wouldn't hear of it, she took care of them with wild-flowers and flowers from her garden. I asked if it might be possible to maybe send her a little gift that my wife might put together around Christmas for her (actually it was my live-in girl-friend, but this being that day and time and place, I didn't wanna press the "new morality" too much!
And that's my story, Jim. And quite a long-winded one I'm afraid. Sorry!
And now, back to work (I actually do a little bit around here from time to time! I figure that post cost my company a couple of hundred dollars! Haha!) (The original owner's kid makes enough money anyway!) (More than he deserves!
Later.
Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
#5
Posted 08 November 2006 - 02:44 PM
John,
I got chill bumps reading that story. You have described that part of Mississippi to a "T". Having grown up during those days of sharecropping, I can relate to how they took care of those loyal sharecroppers. My Granddaddy was the same way. I remember one late autumn afternoon in 1945 when this family drove up in an old beat up car. The oldest man shuffled up to my Granddaddy who was sitting on the porch, never raising his eyes from the ground, and ask if his family could move into an old shotgun shack that was down behind the barn. Granddaddy said, of course you can, and I'll let you sharecrop the 40 acre field behind the house...50/50. That family of 8 lived in that 3 room shack until my Granddaddy died twenty years later. I spent many cold day around the wood stove in the middle of that house. The family may have been poor but they worked and made a living sharecropping.
My late father-in-law worked for the Illinois Central during the depression. He built the tracks along the levee from Memphis (actually Walls MS) to Greenwood. He remembered an old "darkie" who was on the tie gang and who would play his guitar every night. He said the other people called him John. He said John wouldn't drink with the others. He was a kind of stand-offish man as my Father-In-Law remembered. Actually, they got paid a pretty good wage for those days. I understand John left the Illinois Central after one summer to go back and take care of his family in Avalon.
Anyway, thanks for that great story. I know that unless you've beenup to the running boards in that red Mississippi Clay, you can't really appreciate the depth of that story.
I got chill bumps reading that story. You have described that part of Mississippi to a "T". Having grown up during those days of sharecropping, I can relate to how they took care of those loyal sharecroppers. My Granddaddy was the same way. I remember one late autumn afternoon in 1945 when this family drove up in an old beat up car. The oldest man shuffled up to my Granddaddy who was sitting on the porch, never raising his eyes from the ground, and ask if his family could move into an old shotgun shack that was down behind the barn. Granddaddy said, of course you can, and I'll let you sharecrop the 40 acre field behind the house...50/50. That family of 8 lived in that 3 room shack until my Granddaddy died twenty years later. I spent many cold day around the wood stove in the middle of that house. The family may have been poor but they worked and made a living sharecropping.
My late father-in-law worked for the Illinois Central during the depression. He built the tracks along the levee from Memphis (actually Walls MS) to Greenwood. He remembered an old "darkie" who was on the tie gang and who would play his guitar every night. He said the other people called him John. He said John wouldn't drink with the others. He was a kind of stand-offish man as my Father-In-Law remembered. Actually, they got paid a pretty good wage for those days. I understand John left the Illinois Central after one summer to go back and take care of his family in Avalon.
Anyway, thanks for that great story. I know that unless you've beenup to the running boards in that red Mississippi Clay, you can't really appreciate the depth of that story.
This post has been edited by tenn_jim: 07 December 2006 - 10:36 AM
#6
Posted 08 November 2006 - 03:06 PM
Jim, it was a very different time and place back then. I caught the very tail-end of it before things started changing rapidly. And like every time and place, it had it's bad as well as its good. You make it through the bad and look back fondly on the good. It's good to have a guy here old enough to remember and understand some of those times.
And it sounds like your father-in-law likely heard a live performance of a "Spike Driver's Blues."
And it sounds like your father-in-law likely heard a live performance of a "Spike Driver's Blues."
Un-plugged is not the same as
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
never-was-plugged-in-to-begin-with.

John Jackson -My Teacher and My Old Friend
When the roll is called up yonder he'll be there
#7
Posted 08 November 2006 - 03:22 PM
QUOTE (dadfad @ Nov 8 2006, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And it sounds like your father-in-law likely heard a live performance of a "Spike Driver's Blues."
He probably did.
Again thanks for the story.
#8
Posted 08 November 2006 - 07:05 PM
Actually, John Hurt was "found" in 1963 by Tom Hoskins, using the line "Avalon's my home town...", and convinced John to go back with him & do some recording. John had no desire to give up sharecropping for a career in music, but was afraid that if he refused, Hoskins (who he thought was working for the government) would make him go anyway.
By the way, John, are you sure you don't want to write a book?
By the way, John, are you sure you don't want to write a book?

"No matter where you go, there you are" - Jethro Burns
#9
Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:56 AM
First up to both Jim and John, the stories you guys relate are priceless. Its such an education reading of the experiences you've had and hats off to you guys for passing it on. I've always had an affinity with acoustic blues but growing up and living on the other side of the world I couldn't claim any good fortune from learning about how to play it from anybody who had the depth of understanding and feeling of it that you guys have learned from. I guess its one of those things - you had to be there at the time. I only recently got turned on to John Hurt in a small way because I managed to get a hold of a copy of some film from a program called American Folk Blues Festival, I think its from the mid sixties - round about the time i was born. Anyway amoungst others playing is John Hurt and I have to agree with you John that his timing and clean picking were spot on.
Thanks for the pointer in the direction of the website Jim, every little avenue of learning thats opened up is much appreciated.
Thanks for the pointer in the direction of the website Jim, every little avenue of learning thats opened up is much appreciated.
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