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Posted 17 April 2007 - 05:12 PM

ok.. i really love the song "there is" by box car racer, and also the song "i miss you" by blink-182... and i have been dying to learn how to play

them.. however, i looked up the tabs and everything but i was wondering how in the world do they get there guitars to sound like that while

they're playing.. its like you can only hear certain strings, and i know the simplest solution would be to mute the other strings, but first off its

hard to do and second off it doesn't seem like thats what they're doing.. just please explain to me the easiest method to make mine sound like

this... thanks

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 05:58 PM

I don't know those tunes, but keep in mind in a studio situation you can do exactly what you want or need to. If you want to say remove certain strings for a certain tune or piece of a tune, there's nothing to stop you from doing that or something like it. In a studio situation each individual tune is an individual project. You complete that project however long it might take or with whatever special set-ups or changes are required, and then you move onto the next project/tune. It's not the same as like at a gig when you're doing a set.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 06:01 PM

thanks much friend.. but whats your suggestion.. just mute the others?.. idk it just sounds so clear though and when i play it you can barely hear the strings i wanna actually hear the most... idk haha thanks much though
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE (led_zepfan @ Apr 17 2007, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks much friend.. but whats your suggestion.. just mute the others?.. idk it just sounds so clear though and when i play it you can barely hear the strings i wanna actually hear the most... idk haha thanks much though


Learning to mute the strings would probably be your best bet on this one. Or perhaps try and find some video/audio clips of them performing the songs live. You would be amazed at how different some bands sound like to their studio. Sometimes bands sound better, sometimes so good you wonder why they don't just record their concerts. Though, other times, you start to understand why the band spends so much time in the studio.

Not trying to discourage, just try and find some live stuff. Video clips might also help in watching the player's hands to see what they are doing.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:54 AM

I can give you a couple of old studio-tricks for diminishing or virtually removing the sound of an overly dominant or unwanted string(s) without removing them. To diminish the power of a given string slightly (and this was more often sometimes used on the G-string which can be stronger, sometimes as the thickest solid, but any string really) is to loosen the string a bit and slide a tiny piece of paper or thin cloth under it right at the saddle and then re-tune it. This will help diminish its vibrational transference into the soundboard (or pickup). If the string is to be left open during the time you want it to be more subtle, you can also do the same thing at the other end, under the nut. It won't really mute the string but will lessen its power a bit. To "kill" it even more take a piece of tape and put it over the string in an out of the way place (usually near the bridge or right above the neck between it and the sound-hole where it won't contact or affect other strings or your picking). The piece of tape needs to be an inch or so long. Put it over the string and then just keeping a little tension to assure continued contact with the string, stick the tape down onto the soundboard below it on both sides. This will virtually kill any vibration the string might have and prevent it from being picked up by the soundboard or pickup. To, in effect, completely remove the string from the picture it can be loosened and then taped down out of the way below the other strings.

Back in the old analog-days before it was possible to say remove the recorded wave-form of a string or note at a studio with a couple of mouse-clicks or use digital noise-gates, parameter-settings and filters, or choose from a virtually unlimited array of effects, etc. little things like this were often done to get the exact sound you wanted at the studio. All kinds of weird things were done. (Like putting your mic inside an open pail or garbage-can to "thicken" the tone, playing behind large thin sheets of metal suspended from the ceiling to add reverb, purposely poking holes in speakers to add distortion or a "dirty" effect, etc, etc.)
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 06:16 PM

If it helps, IMO the song sounds kinda boring live.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=xbtIk90ptPE
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (led_zepfan @ Apr 17 2007, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok.. i really love the song "there is" by box car racer, and also the song "i miss you" by blink-182... and i have been dying to learn how to play

them.. however, i looked up the tabs and everything but i was wondering how in the world do they get there guitars to sound like that while

they're playing.. its like you can only hear certain strings, and i know the simplest solution would be to mute the other strings, but first off its

hard to do and second off it doesn't seem like thats what they're doing.. just please explain to me the easiest method to make mine sound like

this... thanks

The only tune from above that I've heard of is the Blink182 song. I'm not sure if anyone has already adressed this or not because I didn't take the time to read the other posts but really, the reason why it doesnt sound like you're muting is because you're only muting one string most of the time and that's not going to make a huge difference in the sound. When it comes to the first E string and the B string (Which you are neither playing or muting), you simply just don't play the two strings. Now, if you find yourself accidentally hitting those strings anyways then it might be a good idea to mute them so you don't get those random notes. All it takes is some practice on controlling your strumming to keep it where you want it to go.

QUOTE (skale @ Apr 23 2007, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it helps, IMO the song sounds kinda boring live.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=xbtIk90ptPE

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