[thrAsher***X]

i want a acoustic to play acoustic jazz with, preferably with a cutaway for upper fret access and im thinking nylon string (but mabye not)...................iv tried a few nylon stringed classical-ish guitars but i don't know much about acoustics so im very open to suggestions........................oh and i could probably spend $500 or so (im flexible on this to if i find something really nice for more)

thanks in advance

This post has been edited by thrAsher***X: 03 July 2007 - 10:09 PM

[ninjato]

I find it hard to play jazz on an acoustic. THe frequent chord changes really wears my hand out on an acoustic.

[thrAsher***X]

I find it hard to play jazz on an acoustic. THe frequent chord changes really wears my hand out on an acoustic.

i like the sound, and from what acoustic jazz playing iv done i think its quite enjoyable..........

oh and my hands are young and strong

This post has been edited by thrAsher***X: 04 July 2007 - 12:09 AM

[jhondelroy]

Guitars are music instruments that are versatile, most musicians around the entire world use them because they find a guitar to be very easy to play. An acoustic guitar is one that is made of dried wood. This is most important thing to note, that wood needs to be dried naturally methods. In all old times the wood was dried up for up to three years without picking up the wood again to make the guitar.

For more info: http://www.totallyguitars.com

[ninjato]

Guitars are music instruments that are versatile, most musicians around the entire world use them because they find a guitar to be very easy to play. An acoustic guitar is one that is made of dried wood. This is most important thing to note, that wood needs to be dried naturally methods. In all old times the wood was dried up for up to three years without picking up the wood again to make the guitar.

For more info: http://www.totallyguitars.com

Old times didn't have the technology to dry woods like they do today. Also it has been proven that a piece of "dry" rosewood is still quite "wet" when heated and bent.

Read up on Taylor Guitars method of curing their tonewoods. I also suggest you read up their tech sheets on guitar humidifcation. You'll be surprised how "wet" guitars are.

Last of all, what was th point of your post?

[uassainbolt]

When buying a guitar for beginners i recommend a nylon stringed acoustic or an electric, as they will be the easiest on the fingers. Musical style, personal preference, quality and price are the key determining factors to consider when buying a guitar for intermediate and advanced players.

For more info: http://www.totallyguitars.com

[ninjato]

what makes you think Thrasher is a beginner?

[ninjato]

Guitars are music instruments that are versatile, most musicians around the entire world use them because they find a guitar to be very easy to play. An acoustic guitar is one that is made of dried wood. This is most important thing to note, that wood needs to be dried naturally methods. In all old times the wood was dried up for up to three years without picking up the wood again to make the guitar.

For more info: http://www.totallyguitars.com

WTF!?!?!?! hey are you uassainbolt? What's w/ this TOTALLY GUITARS site you guys keep pushing?

[rob295]

I would take a look at some hollow-body electrics if I were you. The holy grail of those is the gretsch hollow-body electric, but you get cheaper ones as well such as the peaveys etc. Whilst electric guitars they are acoustic, so you get the benefits of an accoustic, yet lighter on the hands like an electric. As a result you get the rich treble jazz tone and easier playability with acoustic. Plus if you want you can also just plug it in. Go try one out at your local guitar store and see what you think.

[ninjato]

look here
http://www.dipintogu...cs/Belltone.htm





Circa 1945. All mahogany. Nice mellow tone. Nice gold pearl inlay on neck and pickguard. Pickguard was restored with almost identical pearl pickguard material as was used in the neck.
$400

[gregsguitarsdotnet]

Here is a sweet Es 120T I have for sale

you can PM me or I will get a notice you responded,Greg.

This post has been edited by gregsguitarsdotnet: 25 April 2009 - 06:12 PM

[noodle69]

I find it hard to play jazz on an acoustic. THe frequent chord changes really wears my hand out on an acoustic.

use light gauge strings !

try light gauge strings on a 3/4 size , they are really cool for most styles of play .

[regard13]

yeap. that's true. light gauge string are MUCH easier to play.
but, thrAsher***X, if you don't know what to choose - nylon or acoustic, I suggest you to go to local store and play nylon and acoustic.
Nylon strings sound much softer and maybe that's the best thing for soft jazz... I don't know. But I would play jazz on nylon, even if the whole world would play acoustic

This post has been edited by regard13: 21 May 2009 - 10:27 AM

[bm22]

look here
http://www.dipintogu...cs/Belltone.htm





Circa 1945. All mahogany. Nice mellow tone. Nice gold pearl inlay on neck and pickguard. Pickguard was restored with almost identical pearl pickguard material as was used in the neck.
$400

I liked that one. It looks good, but is it comfortable to play?

[dadfad]

I liked that one. It looks good, but is it comfortable to play?

My guess would be that it is not. I'm pretty sure it was made with no truss-rod, simply a re-inforced neck, which generally tends to bow a bit with that kind of age and no truss-rod to correct it. To be very playable they usually need a neck-reset job, which for a guitar in that price-range isn't that practical financially (unless one has the luthiery skills to do it himself, or spend the money as more of a "labor-of-love").

It probably does have a nice mellow tone, and fingers alright near the nut, but I would suspect the action is pretty high up the neck, even with maximum adjustment from the bridge/saddle assembly.

I have two guitars very similar (a 1934, and a 1949 with a pickup) both with high action that I use exclusively for slide guitar (where high action is a desirable feature).

I also have a 1964 ES-120T identical to the one one Greg pictured above. (Mine is near mint in the original Gibson soft-shell case with Gibson shop-hangtags). The electronics with a single P-90 style pickup are all mounted in a sort of unusual set-up built into a raised bakelite pick-guard. While a decent sounding and very playable guitar, it was Gibson's entry-level electric hollow-body back then and doesn't really have that "jazz-sound" associated with other Gibson electric-hollows (like say the Gibson ES-175, etc) with just that one single-coil pickup. But still though a very nice guitar.

[bm22]

I liked that one. It looks good, but is it comfortable to play?

My guess would be that it is not. I'm pretty sure it was made with no truss-rod, simply a re-inforced neck, which generally tends to bow a bit with that kind of age and no truss-rod to correct it. To be very playable they usually need a neck-reset job, which for a guitar in that price-range isn't that practical financially (unless one has the luthiery skills to do it himself, or spend the money as more of a "labor-of-love").

It probably does have a nice mellow tone, and fingers alright near the nut, but I would suspect the action is pretty high up the neck, even with maximum adjustment from the bridge/saddle assembly.

I have two guitars very similar (a 1934, and a 1949 with a pickup) both with high action that I use exclusively for slide guitar (where high action is a desirable feature).

I also have a 1964 ES-120T identical to the one one Greg pictured above. (Mine is near mint in the original Gibson soft-shell case with Gibson shop-hangtags). The electronics with a single P-90 style pickup are all mounted in a sort of unusual set-up built into a raised bakelite pick-guard. While a decent sounding and very playable guitar, it was Gibson's entry-level electric hollow-body back then and doesn't really have that "jazz-sound" associated with other Gibson electric-hollows (like say the Gibson ES-175, etc) with just that one single-coil pickup. But still though a very nice guitar.

Yeah, I thought so. There's no such thing as a comfortable acoustic guitar from the 50s, unless I want to invest a lot of money on it. I think that if I'll get a guitar like that one, it would hurt my hand so bad that I won't be able to play for a long time afterward. So it doesn't worth it.

Would love an old and unique acoustic guitar but doesn't worth killing my wrists.

[dadfad]

Yeah, I thought so. There's no such thing as a comfortable acoustic guitar from the 50s, unless I want to invest a lot of money on it. I think that if I'll get a guitar like that one, it would hurt my hand so bad that I won't be able to play for a long time afterward. So it doesn't worth it.

Would love an old and unique acoustic guitar but doesn't worth killing my wrists.

Actually there are, but they were generally high-end guitars back when they were new and now are fairly expensive "vintage collectible" guitars. The more moderately priced entry-level guitars generally didn't hold up so well. I have quite a few guitars as I've been playing over forty years and many of my guitars are pretty old. I have a 1930 Gibson L-1 that plays like butter; another 1934 Gibson Jumbo that plays much better than the new Gibson '34 Jumbo re-issue; a 1949 Gibson J-45, a 1949 Gibson L-50 (a great jazz acoustic), a 1956 Gibson Southern and a 1960 LG-0, a 1959 B-25/12... all of which feel and sound great (better than the new ones) and never had any work done to them beyond normal maintenance (truss rod-adjustments, etc). I bought most of them pretty cheap, just "used guitars" in pawnshops or music-shops back then, before guitar collectors drove their prices up to sometimes ridiculous levels. Older guitars that were built by quality makers back then, like Gibson, Martin, Stromberg, etc, if they've had reasonable care taken over the years generally held up well. They were built to last a lifetime (even warranteed to do so) and usually did. In some cases a couple of lifetimes.