[guru of rock n roll]

Well with the new Guitar World I bought I was real disappointed with it. They have done way standard notation and song analyzing with modes and techniques used. I wished I could make a video of me playing and this explaining this. I don't know how to post in the lessons forum so I decided to use this thread until I get a video camera this year some time soon. I want to see people learn theory not just coping tabs. Anyone can do that. This tab has some errors I got it off Ultimate Guitar tabs I did some correcting but not all of it because it is closer than the the latest Guitar World Tab so this why I chose this song. I welcome requests and if a backing track is needed I have one or a example is needed I will provided one.
Sincerely Tim

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Metallica- Ride the Lightning Solo off the album Ride the Lightning
   Key of E minor
   The tapping part is 32 sec notes very fast. The general feel is minor of the
   solo.
  
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   12p9p5-12p5h9-12p5h9-12p9p5-12p5h9-12p9p5-12p5h9-12p9p5-9p5h9-|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|x2
  
   This part is in E Dorian below is the scale box pattern
  
   |-12--14-15-----|
   |-12--14-15-----|
   |-11--12-14-----|
   |-11--12-14-----|
   |-12--14--------|
   |-12--14-15-----|
   You can play any pattern of the modes as long as you keep the same root as
   the key your playing in. Say if you wanted to play the phyrigian mode play
   it at the 12 fret.
  
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   --14--14b(16)-14b(16)-14---12--11--11--12-11h12h11-----------|
   ---------------------------------------------------14----12--|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   This part with with the octave hybrid picking is diffrent than the
   latest transcription of Guitar World. I am not gonna say they are  wrong
   but the general feel is E minor and they start on D. So I prefer this transcription
   and play it so. It is a octave of the E scale. Make sure that you get a good arch to
   from touching the G string to make a good clean sound on the fret hand. And the picking
   techinque is use the pick and the B string use your ring finger as you pluck the
   first note.
  
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   ---------------------5--5/-7--7--7-/8--8--8/-10-10-10-10\8---|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   ------12--12--14-x\--2--2/-4--4--4-/5--5--5/-7--7--7--7-\5---|
   --14-------------x\------------------------------------------|
   -----------------x\------------------------------------------|
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -8-/10-10/-12---12-\10--10-/12--12/-13--13/--15--15/-17--17--|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -5-/7---7/--9---9--\7---7--/9---9/--10--10/--12--12/-14--14--|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   The next patten is a box C#Minor  pentatonic pattern this tab is not note perfect
   on this part but it is pretty close.The closest I've seen is the guitar pro version 3 of the song
   |19-----22-------|
   |19-----22-------|
   |19--21----------|
   |19--21----------|
   |19--21----------|
   |19-----22-------|
  
  
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------19--b22--19--21--19-----19-----19---19-21-b22--|
   -17--19--21------------------------21-----21-----------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -19------------------22--19--19--22--19---19--19--------14-|
   -----p22--19----------------------------22-------17--------|
   -----------------------------------------------------------|
   -----------------------------------------------------------|
   -----------------------------------------------------------|
   -----------------------------------------------------------|
  
   The box pattern moves to the F#minor pentatonic you can see the tab is gonna stay on this pattern for a few bars
   |-14----17-------|
   |-14----17-------|
   |-14-16----------|
   |-14-16----------|
   |-14-16----------|
   |-14----17-------|
  
  
  
   -17-14----14-17\14----14-------------17-14-------------------|
   -------17----------17-------14-17-14-------17-14---14-17-14--|
   -------------------------16----------------------18----------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   -16-14----14-16-14--------------------------------------------|
   -------16----------16-14----14-16-14--------------------------|
   -------------------------16----------16-14-14-12-14-12----12--|
   -------------------------------------------------------14-----|
  
  
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------14-19-17b-17b-17b-17b--|
   ----------14-16-16-14----14-16-14--16------------------------|
   ----14-16-------------16-------------------------------------|
   -16----------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
  
   ----17b-17b-17b-17-14-17-14-14-14-17-14----------------------|
   -14-------------------------------------17-14-----14-17-14---|
   ----------------------------------------------18-------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
  
  
  
   ---------------------------14-17-14-14-14-14-14-17-14-19-14--|
   ------------------------17-----------------------------------|
   -16-14----14-16b-14/-----------------------------------------|
   -------16-----------16\--------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
  
   -17-14----14-17-17-19-14-17-14----14-14-17-17-19-14-17-14--14-|
   -------17----------------------17-------------------------17--|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   |
   -19-14-17-14----17---------------------------------------------|
   -------------------17-14-17-14----14---------------------------|
   -------------18----------------16----16-14----14-16------------|
   -------------------------------------------16-------14--14-16--|
   ---------------------------------------------------------------|
   ---------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   Finally he breaks from the pentatonic and plays F# Phryigian mode
  
  
   |14-15---17---|
   |14-15---17---|
   |14---16------|
   |14---16-17---|
   |14---16-17---|
   |14-15---17---|
  
   ----------------------------------14-15p14-------------------|
   -------14-15-14h15p14----14-15-17----------17-15-14-15-17----|
   -14-16----------------16-------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   This next part is just a scale ascending and descending into a E dorian
   mode. After the bent note on the 22 fret on the first string (D note)
   A Harmonizer is used. A 3 Octave above to acheive overdubbing sound
  
   -14-15-17-15-17-19-17-19-12-19-20-22-22b-22b-22b-17-19-21-22b|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
  
  
   --17-15-19-17-15-14-17-15-12-15-12-13-14-17-15-12-15-12------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   ----14-12----14-12----------12-------------------------------|
   -15-------13-------13-12-13----15-13-12----------------------|
   -------------------------------------------10----------------|
   -------------------------------------------10----------------|
   --------------------------------------------8----------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
                                trem bar down x    up x
  
  
   The E dorian mode is still used until the double stop bends on the 14 fret
   The harmonizer is turned back on 3 octaves higher to achieve the effect of the overdubbing then the same with the arpeggio
   section after the bend on the 22nd fret(D)
    
   Double Time
   --12--12--12---12-12--12---12-12-15-12-14-12----12------------|
   --15b-15b-15b-15b-15b-15b--------------------15----15-14-12---|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
   --------------------------------------------------------------|
  
  
  
   --------------------------------------12-16-14-12---------------|
   -14-12-------------------14--14--14---------------16-14-12------|
   -------14-12----12-14-12-14b-14b-14b----------------------------|
   -------------14-------------------------------------------------|
   ----------------------------------------------------------------|
   ----------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -16-14-12----------17-16-14----------17-16-14----------------|
   ----------16-14-12----------17-16-14----------17--14-------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -19-17-16----------21-19-17----------22-21-19-----------22b--|
   ----------19-17-16----------21-19-17----------22-21-19--22b--|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   Use the Index for the 15 and middle for the 17 and hammer with your pinky
   make sure you roll your fingers to get the proper sound. Continue through the rest of the song.
  
   with harmonizer
   ----15-19-15--(x4)----14-17-14-(x4)----13-17-13-(x4)---12-16-1-----|2(x4)
   -17----------------15---------------15--------------12-------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------------|(rpt x2)
  
   ----10-13-8----8-13-8----10-15-10-------13-18-13-------------|
   -12---------10--------10----------12-15----------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -20-15-12-15----15-19-19-15----15-18-15-18----15-17-15-------|
   -------------16-------------17-------------17----------17----|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -15-17-15----15-17-17\-13-8----8-13-8-13-8----8-13-8-13-8----|
   ----------17-------17\------10-------------10-------------10-|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
  
   -15-10----10-15-10-15-10----12-10-13----13-18-13----13-------|
   -------12----------------12----------15----------15-13-------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|
   -------------------------------------------------------------|

This post has been edited by guru of rock n roll: 30 January 2008 - 01:24 AM

[guru of rock n roll]

Guns and Roses November Rain solo

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Played in the key of C
  -------------------|------------------|--------------8--------|--------------8--------|
  -------------------|------------------|--8b-----8b-----8r---6-|--8b-----8b-----8r--5r-|
  --0----------------|------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
  -------------------|------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
  -------------------|------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
  -------------------|------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|
  
  
                                                                                                
  --------8~----------|--------------------------|--------------8--------|--------------8-8r----|
  ---------------5b---|----------------8---------|--8b-----8b-----8r---6-|--8b-----8b-----------|
  --------------------|--------7h5-7/9---9/7--5--|-----------------------|----------------------|
  --------------------|--------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|
  --------------------|--------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|
  --------------------|--------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|
  
  The first box pattern he is using the relative minor Am pentatonic scale box At the 5th fret using bends. Then then moves to the the 8th fret using the same box pattern.
  The Box pattern
  
  |-5-----8----------------|  
  |-5-----8----------------|
  |-5-----7----------------|
  |-5-----7----------------|
  |-5-----7----------------|
  |-5-----8----------------|

  |-8----11--------------------|
  |-8----11--------------------|
  |-8----10--------------------|
  |-8----10--------------------|
  |-8----10--------------------|
  |-8----11--------------------|
  
  
  
  
  
                                                                                                  
  --10r-----------8h10h8----|--8----------13h12----13h12----13b-|--13~------------12-13--12h13p12-|
  -----------------------10-|----11~------------13-------13-----|--------------15-----------------|
  --------------------------|-----------------------------------|---------------------------------|
  --------------------------|-----------------------------------|---------------------------------|
  --------------------------|-----------------------------------|---------------------------------|
  --------------------------|-----------------------------------|---------------------------------|
  The next phrase he is using E Phrygian
  
  |-12-13-15-----------------|
  |-12-13-15-----------------|
  |-12-14--------------------|
  |-12-14-15-----------------|
  |-12-14-15-----------------|
  |-12-13-15-----------------|
  
  The next small phrase uses mixolydian but very briefly going to Am pentatonic
                                                              
  ------------------------------|------------20~-------19-19-|
  --15~-----15-17-18r-----18-17-|--17b-17~-------------------|
  ------------------------------|----------------------------|
  ------------------------------|----------------------------|
  ------------------------------|----------------------------|
  ------------------------------|----------------------------|                                                                                              
  then running a C major tremolo picking pattern going back to the phrygian mode pattern
  
  --19/17-17-17/15-15-15/13-13-13/12-12-12h13p12-----|--12h13~------12-13-12h13p12-------12----|
  -----------------------------------------------15--|-----------------------------15h13----13-|
  ---------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|
  ---------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|
  ---------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|
  ---------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------|
  
  briefly touching the Lydian mode (bar 16) Then plays the Dorain mode
  (bar 17 and 18)
                                                                                                
  --------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
  --15h17p15-13-15-12h13-12h13p12-------12----10----------|----------------13~---------------13~|
  --------------------------------14p12----12----10-12-10-|--9~----12p-10/9--------10h12p10/9----|
  --------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
  --------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
  --------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
  
  
                                                                              
  ------------------------15------|--------------------|----------------------|
  -----------------15b-------15r--|--13b---------------|----------------------|
  ------10h12p10/9----------------|--------------------|--------------5h7p5---|
  --------------------------------|--------------------|--------------------7-|
  --------------------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
  --------------------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
  
  
                                                                                                    
  ------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------|
  --6--5------------------|----------6b-------6h5-|--6--5----------------|-------------------------|
  --------5-----------5h7-|-----------------------|--------5-------------|--5h7------------5h7p5---|
  -----------7------------|--7--5-----------------|-----------7----------|---------------7-------7-|
  ------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------|
  ------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------|

This post has been edited by guru of rock n roll: 31 January 2008 - 08:45 AM

[jenniferdurst]

You're saying they actually used to put music music in the mag instead of tabs?

[guru of rock n roll]

You're saying they actually used to put music music in the mag instead of tabs?

They printed both like in buying the books. It had the standard notation and the tab.

[jenniferdurst]

Ah, gotcha.

[frankyz84]

Great lesson there Guru. Look forward to seeing more of this kind of thing. I will however point out you cannot hammer from 7 to 5 therefore they must be pulloffs, perhaps an oversight?

[guru of rock n roll]

Great lesson there Guru. Look forward to seeing more of this kind of thing. I will however point out you cannot hammer from 7 to 5 therefore they must be pulloffs, perhaps an oversight?

I tried to fix the errors. I didn't tab it. I will proof read them and have them perfect on the future ones. I was just really upset with Guitar Worlds latest print of the song. I am glad you enjoyed it.

[jenniferdurst]

Looks like all of them in the second tab have h for hammer and pull. Maybe whoever tabbed it thought you'd be smart enough to figure it out....or maybe they were ######.

[guru of rock n roll]

Looks like all of them in the second tab have h for hammer and pull. Maybe whoever tabbed it thought you'd be smart enough to figure it out....or maybe they were ######.

I played it . It is just a typo.

[guru of rock n roll]

I fixed it . I don't think they used any pull offs. But when I read tabs I usually don't read them carefully. I get the pattern and try to play with the recording for the timing. I will be more careful in the future. I want to continue with this type lessons to build a archive them. So does any of your students frankyz have favorite songs they play a lot of. I have a dinosaur type mind.

[frankyz84]

I fixed it . I don't think they used any pull offs. But when I read tabs I usually don't read them carefully. I get the pattern and try to play with the recording for the timing. I will be more careful in the future. I want to continue with this type lessons to build a archive them. So does any of your students frankyz have favorite songs they play a lot of. I have a dinosaur type mind.

I spend hour upon hour correcting tabs, and transposing songs to make it easier for the student(beginners) I have the song i am working on going in sound forge, and i take a tab from somewhere on the net(ultimateguitar usually) and just go through it with a fine toothcomb. The advanvage of soundforge is you can just highligt a part of the song and keep that going on repeat untill you have worked out every note. If a student requests a song, then i usully manage to do something with even the most inaccurate of tabs. But i will bear in mind your offer, incase i am unable to find a tab, or do not have the time to correct one. Cheers.

[guru of rock n roll]

Franky I didn't mean it like you read it. I play music that is old and no one hardly listens to anymore. I need a new what is popular among newer students. And as far as tabbing I don't have a lot of time to at the moment, Between work and my drug court I am at 68 hours a week until mid march. I started these lessons in showing that there is more to learning a song than just reading tab or even that matter standard notation. Between the new video lesson that Urmaboy does and Guitar Worlds new agenda. I used to have that type thinking but music is about expressing yourself not coping someone else, so I decided to take popular songs and explain why they sound the way they do to help them apply that when they start playing their own songs. And also to be able to see these patterns for themselves when reading tab.