[a54293]

Hey everyone,
I'm new to the forum, and have a slight problem.

I normally just look up tabs to learn songs and such, but recently began to try out tabbing stuff myself. Right now I'm trying to work out a couple songs from Dr. Dog called "Adeline," "Say Ah," and "County Line." Dr. Dog uses some nice chord progressions (For example, I think "Say Ah" goes Em, A, Bm, G, F#m, back to Em) but I've got a terrible ear for this and I can't seem to figure out ANYTHING from "Country Line." It sounds like its tuned a half-step off or something.

Does anybody happen to know any of these songs, or can help me out? (Especially with "County Line")

Many Thanks!

[adankatron]

im in the same boat as you man! i wanna learn county line sooo bad. ive just started to try to learn by ear (but its so damn hard). im curious how you personally play say ahhh. you should send me an mp3 or something haha. you should let me know if you learn any other dr. dog songs, and share the love and ill do the same.

[dadfad]

I listened to "County Line" (from something I found on YouTube). He's tuned down almost a whole step. But not quite (which might be why this might be a little tough to figure out even though the progression isn't that difficult). Between the "true pitch" keys of E and F. He's playing the tune "as if" it were being played out of G (the common 320003 G) because I recognize many of the hammers, changes, etc as things that are common to playing out of that position (like hammering on the 5,4 or 3 string-2nd fret when moving between G and C, etc.). A guitar tuned a whole step down and then played "as if" in G would of course then actually be in the key of F. Which is (almost!) the key he's in.

When trying to figure it out, one could either tune his guitar to match (just slight of a whole-step down) or record the tune onto a music-program and then correct the pitch to F (or actually any pitch/key you might want, like G).

There's always the chance the YouTube thing I listened to had a minor pitch-shift during its re-recording, with the original recording actually being correct, but when a person performs something on guitar, as long as his strings are tuned in a relative sense to each other correctly, there's really no need they be dead-on to an exact pitch.