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say for instance a had a(no particular choice)n 8 channel mixer and a boss space echo pedal delay (stereo, which i do own), how do i work it all out so it works optimally in stereo? last time i had a mixer it was a 12 channel yamaha jobbie and i just couldnt work it out so i gave up. also do you recommend any 8 channel mixers?
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send & return effects on a mixer
can anyone explain this to me pls
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 11:15 AM
I don't think I really understand the question ?
So I'm assuming this: you have an instrument, say a guitar, that comes on channel 1, you do some EQing and other channel related stuff and send the signal to return track 1. On return track 1 you send the signal through a aux output, so your basically sending your EQ'ed/amplified guitar out the mixer again and into the delay pedal.
You then take the output (twin jacks you can each send to their own track, or combine them into a single stereo jack and land them on a single track / return) and return it to the mixer. This way you can also send the guitar signal to another return / straight to the master without the space echo effect, and slowly blend in the space echoes that are caught on their own tracks.
As for how many tracks you need, depends... you can go a long way with only four if you don't mind changing jacks when changing instruments / effects. I recall you using Ableton these days, for my portable Mac "recording environment" I favour this soundcard:
MOTU Ultralite MK3.
Not alone is it a soundcard with hardware effects (do your hardware EQing and amplification within, as well as compression, limiting and reverb) it also is a small compact mixer with phantom power for mics, and 14 in and outputs. You can route tracks in Ableton to specific hardware outputs on the MOTU, and route the hardware inputs back into Ableton (internally through the soundcard). If you're in the digital recording domain, I'd recommend this if you're into hefty routing as it blends seemlessly with the software environment. Doing this, you could also have a digital sound running, send it out the soundcard, run it through your hardware delay tank and take the individual stereo outputs back into Ableton, and process these individually on if you'd please (or create massive send and return feedback loops which are always cool with tape echo type systems).
As a matter of fact, I prefer this simple compact approach to my "desktop environment" with additional mixers =/ it just depends how you end up sequencing your tracks.
So I'm assuming this: you have an instrument, say a guitar, that comes on channel 1, you do some EQing and other channel related stuff and send the signal to return track 1. On return track 1 you send the signal through a aux output, so your basically sending your EQ'ed/amplified guitar out the mixer again and into the delay pedal.
You then take the output (twin jacks you can each send to their own track, or combine them into a single stereo jack and land them on a single track / return) and return it to the mixer. This way you can also send the guitar signal to another return / straight to the master without the space echo effect, and slowly blend in the space echoes that are caught on their own tracks.
As for how many tracks you need, depends... you can go a long way with only four if you don't mind changing jacks when changing instruments / effects. I recall you using Ableton these days, for my portable Mac "recording environment" I favour this soundcard:
MOTU Ultralite MK3.
Not alone is it a soundcard with hardware effects (do your hardware EQing and amplification within, as well as compression, limiting and reverb) it also is a small compact mixer with phantom power for mics, and 14 in and outputs. You can route tracks in Ableton to specific hardware outputs on the MOTU, and route the hardware inputs back into Ableton (internally through the soundcard). If you're in the digital recording domain, I'd recommend this if you're into hefty routing as it blends seemlessly with the software environment. Doing this, you could also have a digital sound running, send it out the soundcard, run it through your hardware delay tank and take the individual stereo outputs back into Ableton, and process these individually on if you'd please (or create massive send and return feedback loops which are always cool with tape echo type systems).
As a matter of fact, I prefer this simple compact approach to my "desktop environment" with additional mixers =/ it just depends how you end up sequencing your tracks.
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:46 AM
I got my Bassman 400 Pro combo last year and its only until now that Ive gotten an effect the murf that I can run through the Effects loop. How exactly do I set this up?
Do I put the send cable into the Audio in on the Murf and the Return in the Left audio out...then plug my bass into the main input jack on my amp?
cheers
Do I put the send cable into the Audio in on the Murf and the Return in the Left audio out...then plug my bass into the main input jack on my amp?
cheers
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