[wavewalker]

My first Acoustic had pegs and it was such a pain in the ass to change the strings I decided to not get another guitar with them. Why do they make them? Are bridges with slots prone to breakdown? Without a tool, are they all as hard to get out as the ones I have experienced?

I'm just curios.

[capo2nd]

My first Acoustic had pegs and it was such a pain in the ass to change the strings I decided to not get another guitar with them.  Why do they make them?  Are bridges with slots prone to breakdown?  Without a tool, are they all as hard to get out as the ones I have experienced?

I'm just curios.

i have no problems with pegs. i take the strings off the tuners, but my hand into the sound hole and push them out upwards. the i get the string out

[wavewalker]

What if you're just changing one string?



Edit: I used the wrong your.

This post has been edited by wavewalker: 07 October 2003 - 01:38 PM

[capo2nd]

What if you're just changing one string?



Edit: I used the wrong your.

well, that's a good question now... i never had the need to change just one on a guitar with pegs. i only changed them set wise so far. sorry mate

[improviduto]

most cheap string winders have a notch in the head for peg pulling.

Here's some reasons for pegs:

01. tradition
02. deeper sound since the string is in contact with the box, itself
03. a metal bridge needs to be braced in the tail. the string tension would rip the bridge right out of the top if mounted otherwise
04. with the depth of the body of a flat top acoustic (especially at the tail), it may not be physically efficient to use a tail-braced bridge

[Zep-Bowie-Young Freak]

I haven't had problems with my pegs - and like improviduto said you can get those little peg puller things.

[stuartmerenbloom]

The only guitar I had w/pegs was a real old STELLA...I hated changing strings but you do what you have to do...try putting a soft cloth over the peg and gently pull it out with a pair of snub nosed pliers.






edit: fixed the tags for ya. don't forget to close them.

[improviduto]

hey, you could always go classical and tie the strings onto the bridge.

[wavewalker]

One more question. What do you call a guitar with no pegs? Peggless? What do you call the thing that the strings go through on the other side of the bridge where the peg would be??

I taught my self how to play and don't know a lot of terminology.

O.K. I started typing and that's more than one question. Sorry.

[superwinkie]

I have a bit of trouble when I'm changing the strings on my epiphone, when I put the pegs in over the string it usually pulls the peg out with it when i stretch it, I really have to work to get it down in there. Never had that problem with another acoustic.

[wavewalker]

I have a bit of trouble when I'm changing the strings on my epiphone, when I put the pegs in over the string it usually pulls the peg out with it when i stretch it, I really have to work to get it down in there.  Never had that problem with another acoustic.

I had that proble too with the guitar in question, an Oscor Shmitt (first guitar)

[dadfad]

A guitar with a trapeze tail-piece has a floating (un-attached) bridge (which is usually moveable up or down the body (for intonation) or up and down with the little thumb-screws (for action) and is usually used only on arch-top acoustics. Those cheap winders, like Improv said, usually have a little notch in them for pulling pegs (I never noticed that for a long time myself). Before they made string-winders like that, I'd taken a table-fork and removed one of the tines and had used that as a peg-puller for a long time. It's a good idea to put a piece of paper between the puller and the finish (if it's a really nice finish) so you don't mar it, even with plastic pullers. Sometimes you get a really tough peg that has to be removed by pushing it out. I use a Bic lighter or spoon to push with from inside. When you put a new string in the peg-hole, make sure the brass ball-end snug against against the under-side of the top or it'll keep moving up, going out of tune or pulling the peg out. String pressure should be against the top of the guitar, not the peg itself.

[lowden]

I bought an acoustic with no pegs, so have no problems with them anymore. When changing strings on a guitar with pegs I used an old key to lever them out. When you're putting the new string in the hole, place it half way in, then push home using the peg, keep a little bit of tension on the string, with your hand, while pushing the peg home, this'll help with the problem of string slipping and peg pooping.

God bless Lowden Guitars, pegless wonders.

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[unprodigalgirl87]

you could always take your guitar to a shop and pay to have the strings changed {if it's that annoying} i love bridge pins, i bought really pretty ones to match my guitar and i can get them out using the cap of a zippo lighter with no problem.

[jshrel24]

if your just changing one string, then just loosen up the strings you arnt changing enough so your hand can get in your soundhole, and then push the peg outwards. Then just retune all of them, and you got it.
Josh

[mad_cow711]

if your just changing one string, then just loosen up the strings you arnt changing enough so your hand can get in your soundhole, and then push the peg outwards.  Then just retune all of them, and you got it.
Josh

or you can just loosen the one you're changing, and you can take of the peg w/ a pair of plyers. not that hard, unless your pegs are alot harder to take out than mine, plus i'm not worried about destroying 'em since my acoustics a piece of crap, and even if you do break a peg it costs like nothing

[adds]

if your just changing one string, then just loosen up the strings you arnt changing enough so your hand can get in your soundhole, and then push the peg outwards.  Then just retune all of them, and you got it.
Josh

or you can just loosen the one you're changing, and you can take of the peg w/ a pair of plyers. not that hard, unless your pegs are alot harder to take out than mine, plus i'm not worried about destroying 'em since my acoustics a piece of crap, and even if you do break a peg it costs like nothing

Thats not always the case.Some guitars have ivory bridge pins and they aint cheap.

[adds]

One more question.  What do you call a guitar with no pegs?  Peggless?  What do you call the thing that the strings go through on the other side of the bridge where the peg would be??

I taught my self how to play and don't know a lot of terminology.

O.K. I started typing and that's more than one question.  Sorry.

Im not sure if there a different name for it on a steel string but on a classical its called a tie block.Thats if im thinking of the thing your thinking of.

[Sun_Coast]

If changing one broken string on my FG180 Yamaha I just use a coin and twist it under the peg head no probs.

[pimp_vince]

just to add guys... your peg doesn't actually hold the string in. it holds it in place, but the part doing all the pulling essentially is the body of the guitar. the peg simply pushes the end of the string against the body. so make sure your pegs don't pop out when winding, becuase you should re-do them, they are the ones that are tough to get the pins out, the others should actually just slide out effortlessly when unwound. at least my taylor does that.