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#1 User is offline   wannalearn01 Icon

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:44 AM

A lot of times when I am trying to tune my guitar(electric/acoustic), either with a regular tuner or by a chromatic(i think thats what they are called) it will take me a long time to get them to the right note. Like the top string will hop from a D to a G, or other just "weird" things. Does that sound like something in my pick-ups, or the internal electronics?

I only need to tune it once in a while but it is hard when I do.

Should I try and fugure this out or try and learn how to tune by ear/harmonics/etc? If so, what way is the BEST?

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P.S. BTW I have a Epiphone AJ seires with a piezo pick-up and 3 band EQ.
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 02:04 PM

If the tuner has a mic' try using the mic', or if it has an input try plugging the guitar into it. It's usually best to pick the string once every second and apparently your best using your fingers but I dont think it really matters.
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 09:17 AM

Now that you mention it. The only time it acts funny is when I plug it into the tunner. When it is unplugged it usually goes well...

So what would make a tuner not be able to pick up a note from a electric-acoustic*

I mean my guitar is like 2-3 months old. It has a "limited lifetime warranty" via Epiphone U.S.A. so do you think I should take it somewhere to be looked at?

*I also wne from light to super light strings..if that could be the problem.

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Posted 14 April 2004 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (wannalearn01 @ Apr 14 2004, 02:17 PM)
Now that you mention it. The only time it acts funny is when I plug it into the tunner. When it is unplugged it usually goes well...

So what would make a tuner not be able to pick up a note from a electric-acoustic*

I mean my guitar is like 2-3 months old. It has a "limited lifetime warranty" via Epiphone U.S.A. so do you think I should take it somewhere to be looked at?

*I also wne from light to super light strings..if that could be the problem.

T^roy

It could be the output volume, the EQ could be set too bass-y for the tuner. Your usually just best to use the built in mic', the inputs are mostly made to pick up the frequency of an electric rather than an acoustic. If the mic' works just use that.
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 10:11 AM

Super light stings are a b__ch to keep in tune.
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 10:44 AM

Plugged in, it might be overly sensitive and is picking up contrasting notes from symathetic (un-picked, but vibrating) strings.
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 02:54 PM

Yeah when i try to tune my electric guitar i have to turn the volume down all the way (i usually have it all the way up) and then i have to turn my tone all the way down to make it more bassy. I find when i use a pick it jumps from different notes because when the plastic hits the strings it makes a higher pitched noise so i just use my fingers and it usually works fine. blink.gif

By the way what kind/model tuner do u have?

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Posted 14 April 2004 - 10:05 PM

Make sure you're not plucking the string too hard as that can cause a tuner to go wild (in addition to making surrounding strings vibrate also, as DADFAD said). Pluck it the same hardness as you play (about every second) to get the tuner to respond better. If all else fails check the battery on the tuner.
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 10:12 PM

Try muting your other strings as you pluck the one you're trying to tune.
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 12:09 AM

Pluck each string at the 12th fret, it has a purer sound there (less interfering harmonics).
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 12:13 AM

check the battery in your tuner.
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 02:46 PM

Learn to tune by ear anyway. One day it will come in handy.
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 03:30 PM

I haven't posted much, only just read, but I'm having a similar problem. When I try to tune by my tuner, it generally says all my strings are getting HIGHER in pitch, not lower as it would seem that they should. I'm not sure if it's becuase the tuner is bad or it's correct and for some reason my strings really ARE going higher in pitch over time... I tune it using the mic, as I don't have a pickup on my guitar... any possible ideas?
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Posted 15 April 2004 - 03:40 PM

the cable you are using could be dodgy. thats the only thing i can think of other than whats been said
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Posted 16 April 2004 - 05:00 AM

QUOTE (wavewalker @ Apr 15 2004, 07:46 PM)
Learn to tune by ear anyway.  One day it will come in handy.

That's true, the best way to do it.

And as that fellow from stab city said (I dont know yer' name... tongue.gif), check the cable. If the cable is giving off a hum all your going to pick up is a G or G#.
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Posted 16 April 2004 - 09:51 AM

Thanks guys, those problems was what I thought it coudl be, and some new ones I have never thought of.

I don't know what kind it is, I know it is a like a 20 dollar tuner though. Usually when I tune in the guitar I tune the top to E and do the rest by ear, changing to tuner to "reassure" myself. I can get it clsoe but some strings(the b string) always give me trouble...now that I think of it..what position on the g-string is the b?

So I have seen people tune by harmonics...is that harder, easier, or jsut plan cool? laugh.gif

Thanks for the help guys,

T^roy

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Posted 16 April 2004 - 09:51 PM

Harmonic tuning works well also, but you have to be exact where you place your finger. You can't do it for the B-string.

If I don't use a tuner I always pluck the in-tune string first, then quickly pluck the one to be tuned. Always bring the string to be tuned flatter than it's supposed to be then bring it UP to pitch. That takes up any potential slack in the string and it'll hold the tuning better.
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Posted 16 April 2004 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (wannalearn01 @ Apr 16 2004, 09:51 AM)
now that I think of it..what position on the g-string is the b?

4th fret.

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So I have seen people tune by harmonics...is that harder, easier, or jsut plan cool?

Don't waste your time, it just doesn't work.
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Posted 17 April 2004 - 08:42 AM

Another great way to tune is by using a harmonica. No, no fancy gimmicks ("Harmonics" pfft! tongue.gif) - a nice simple harmonica in the key of A does me grand.
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Posted 17 April 2004 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (hammeron @ Apr 16 2004, 10:09 PM)
QUOTE (wannalearn01 @ Apr 16 2004, 09:51 AM)
now that I think of it..what position on the g-string is the b?

4th fret.

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So I have seen people tune by harmonics...is that harder, easier, or jsut plan cool?
Don't waste your time, it just doesn't work.

Thats what I was thinking, but then I second guessed myself.

So a no go on the harmonic tuning huh?

What about a tuning fork. I'm looking for something that I won't have to add batteries too....and I'm not down with blowing.... laugh.gif

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