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#1 myfinalheaven

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 12:36 AM

In the next month or so I hope to buy a new computer and I'd like everyone's advice. I'm not looking to spend too much, maybe under $1200 Canadian. Where should I buy from? Is buying online from Dell cheaper? What if I just bought the parts seperately and built it myself, would that be cheaper? Is the new Intel Duo Core(I think that's it) worth the extra money?

I'm not going to lie, I'm buying this so I can play games, I'm tired of my joke of a computer. What's the best graphics card in terms of value? Is buying the newest line of video cards from either ATI or Nvidia really worth it? Which do you prefer, ATI or Nvidia, and why? My Radeon 9600 is just barely doing the job.

Now, in terms of sound, I'm pretty much set with what I have right now. I have the Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeMusic and it really does make a difference when compared to an on-board soundcard. I'll just rip it out of this computer and stick it in my new one.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 04:21 AM

I bought mine for $1000, went to this place here in town and I got all the parts and my brother built it...2 GB RAM, 250 GB harddrive, Motherboard, 2.4 processer (forget which one it is) and the tower. It all equaled about 950? then I bought a dvd rw. So yeah about a grand for mine, Better this way for me cause then I get the stuff I want.


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Posted 16 September 2006 - 09:43 AM

I suggest building a computer, if you have the knowlage.

I put the XtremeMusic in my computer and it kicks ass.

Don't buy a Dell.

I have an eVGA GeForce 7900GT right now, and I am contemplating buying another to put them in SLI. Even running the one I have solo is amazing.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:17 AM

Do you prefer Nvidia over ATI? I'm definitely looking at getting a high end graphics card. I'm tired of running Oblivion with everything turned down or off. I want shadows damnit!

I'm currently in the process of overclocking my current video card. What a tedious process it is. Maybe I should just max it out and fry the damned thing for fun. sleep.gif
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:24 AM

I've always used nVidia, so I guess I prefer them. unsure.gif

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:50 AM

My old graphics card was an Nvidia MX 400. Lord, how I despised that absolute piece of shit.


Had I unlimited funds, I would skip making my own and buy one of these. Look at the specs on the Area-51 ALX. Oh, the pure power. smile.gif
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 01:04 PM

What about one of these?

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 01:47 PM

Don't buy a Dell because then you might not be able to use your old soundcard.
The bastards like to make the power suply just enough to power what's in teh computer when you buy it and no more so if you try to upgrade you have to buy a new powersuply.

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 03:13 PM

i would buy from dell online i got a sick new laptop for 600-700. Also if you order from their sight you can custimize your comp
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Posted 17 September 2006 - 03:28 PM

Gateway, Systemax and Asus all have good stuff. You could just buy all the right parts from Tigerdirect.ca and build it yourself, if you want to be a handyman that is or you could get a barebones kit with all the essentials and all you would need to pickup is a video card and whatever else you want.

Intel based Core 2 Duo 2.13 Ghz, 1 GB DDR RAM, 320 GB HDD


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Essentially anything you buy from Tiger is bound to be good, their store is in Toronto which is massive, and their depot is here in Hamilton I believe.

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (gusdotcom @ Sep 17 2006, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't buy a Dell because then you might not be able to use your old soundcard.
The bastards like to make the power suply just enough to power what's in teh computer when you buy it and no more so if you try to upgrade you have to buy a new powersuply.

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You would have to do that with any other mainstream computer brand maker Gus, cause most companies do that to keep the cost of computers down. If you are going to put something like a Nvidia GeForce 7950 in a computer, you best have a 500 watt PSU in it.

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 05:09 PM

Thanks AS, that looks promising. smile.gif


Would a 500 watt power supply be enough for almost anything? I'm thinking of getting a GeForce 7900 GT 256MB.
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 02:11 AM

I'm not the best at giving advice on this subject, but I'd keep a hundred miles away from Dell.

Edited by nealmac, 19 September 2006 - 01:49 AM.


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Posted 18 September 2006 - 06:11 PM

i'd go Cyberpowersystem.com very reliable and good prices. Right now I would definetly go AMD X2 because it is so damn cheap and good and a Crossfire mother board (Dual ATI) and if you want 2 ATI x1600s or just 1 right now x1600 are so good for the price. I always look for the good bang for the buck
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE (myfinalheaven @ Sep 17 2006, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks AS, that looks promising. smile.gif


Would a 500 watt power supply be enough for almost anything? I'm thinking of getting a GeForce 7900 GT 256MB.

Yes you would want a 500 watt PSU regardless of what you are putting in it. Get the best you need though cause its easier to get a higher end PSU and be able to customize your computer when you want without having to get a new one when you do ever upgrade. If you plan on doing SLI mode at all, your best bet is to get a 600 watt PSU or something that is designed for SLI based motherboards.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 08:13 AM

For the last time ignore all the *BAD* advice. If you have any idea of what you're doing, Dell PC's are fine. Very reliable, and I've added plenty of hardware to mine.

But, if you're looking for something to use for gaming you probably would be best going for a self build, yes. I did some research last night and managed to price a 3ghz PC with intel, and an OK graphics card for ~350.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Sep 18 2006, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (gusdotcom @ Sep 17 2006, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't buy a Dell because then you might not be able to use your old soundcard.
The bastards like to make the power suply just enough to power what's in teh computer when you buy it and no more so if you try to upgrade you have to buy a new powersuply.

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You would have to do that with any other mainstream computer brand maker Gus, cause most companies do that to keep the cost of computers down. If you are going to put something like a Nvidia GeForce 7950 in a computer, you best have a 500 watt PSU in it.

Even mroe reason to build your own then.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (nealmac @ Sep 18 2006, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not the best at giving advice on this subject, but I'd keep a hundred miles away from Dell.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 03:36 PM

Yea Dells really aren't that bad
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 01:28 AM

QUOTE (evileye @ Sep 19 2006, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the last time ignore all the *BAD* advice. If you have any idea of what you're doing, Dell PC's are fine. Very reliable, and I've added plenty of hardware to mine.

But, if you're looking for something to use for gaming you probably would be best going for a self build, yes. I did some research last night and managed to price a 3ghz PC with intel, and an OK graphics card for ~350.

I'm only going by personal experience. Once I have a problem with a particular brand of item, I tend not to go back to it. I realise this should not always be the case, but, meh.

QUOTE (kurtlives @ Sep 19 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nealmac @ Sep 18 2006, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm not the best at giving advice on this subject, but I'd keep a hundred miles away from Dell.

what there sick

Can you re-jig this into a sentence? I have no idea what you just said.




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