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#1 badasstommyboy

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 11:38 AM

Ok well it's coming up to new computer time.

I can Either spend about 800 to 900 and get a really good dual core pc, with 2 gb of ram, 320GB HDD, wireless, TV Card, dual output graphics card that does everything i want.

or spend 1400 to 1500 getting a quad core intel xeon PowerMac with 160GB HDD and 1GB of Ram - no tv card, no built in wireless - but looks really sexy

Now - Lets Here your arguments.




Reasons for me getting a Mac
- Mac OS X - it's freakishly cool and looks amazing
- Reliability - Macs tend to not break
- Fewer Viruses
- While being a lower spec, Macs tend to be more efficient
- I don't really wanna use up 15GB of HDD space on Windows Vista


Reasons for me Getting a PC
- It's a hell of a lot cheaper then a Mac
- In my years of having a PC, I've never actually had a really bad virus (touch wood) so viruses aren't a worry
- I know exactly how to fix pretty much anything on a pc
- I can get a much higher spec for my money
- I can get the lovely Media Centre remote control bundled with vista so I can work my comp from my bed - which is a really good factor for me as I watch films in bed all the time.




So lets have a see what you all think.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:37 PM

Macs should only be used if you plan on using it for heavy graphics and video work. So if you happen to be a graphical designer then go for the mac.
Else go for PC.
You for got the fact that there are few games and freeware for Mac.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 01:45 PM

Like him say there. smile.gif

Unless you have the money and appreciate design or you use a Mac for your job... get a PC
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Posted 05 February 2007 - 02:46 PM

i think it's gonna have to be a PC. Mac istoooo much money.

Then i'll get a nice shell replacement and make it look like a mac tongue.gif

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 02:50 PM

lmfao anyone with any common sense at all would get a pc


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Posted 05 February 2007 - 04:36 PM

Here's the thing:

I know my way round Windows. Granted, it isn't easiest to use properly when you know jack swat about computers beyond MSN and Myspace. Yet I do, and I enjoy booting up and being ready to go in less than 30 seconds with all (virus, internet) defenses up and running too.

For considerably less money I have the Duo Core PC with all the nice goodies (let alone the extensive MIDI and synthesizer and audio equipment hooked up which I consider the most important part of my work environment), and get this: I can run both Windows and OS X (the latter which I hardly use).

Best bit ? My friend has a MacBook with Duo Core fun which isn't supported by most OS X programs he requires, so he boots it in XP to run the Windows equivalents. Right on.

Anyways, I can work just fine on both, it's just that the price of the Apple variants keep me from buying them.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 04:46 PM

Another vote here for PC.

QUOTE (Divinity @ Feb 5 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lmfao anyone with any common sense at all would get a pc

Idiot.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 06:32 PM

pc for sure
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE (Divinity @ Feb 6 2007, 04:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lmfao anyone with any common sense at all would get a pc


That's why we have so many PC users today right? laugh2.gif

If you had the budget for it I would say get the Mac, use Parallels/Bootcamp and then boot in to Windows tongue.gif

Get the PC. Support will take time coming, so I'd say wait for Vista to settle down before you install it. In about 6 months to a year there will be million bugfixes, guides to strip the system down, guides to secure it (further), etc. And probably a Service Pack as well. wacko.gif

a ) Upgradable on a budget
B ) Hardware doesn't have to be almost exclusively Mac
c ) More freeware for the lesser needs
d ) More games! (right now at least)

Edited by thehundredthone, 06 February 2007 - 12:27 AM.

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#10 badasstommyboy

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 01:53 AM

i'm pretty sure it's gonne be a PC now. Mainly cos.....

- Price
- I know how to fix it
- Parts and Upgrades are cheaper and more widely available
- The lovely Media Centre remote control which I will get a lot of use out of
- I can get all sorts of shell replacement things for windows so the OS can look as different as i want it to - more customisable

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (badasstommyboy @ Feb 6 2007, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- I can get all sorts of shell replacement things for windows so the OS can look as different as i want it to - more customisable


But still hella fugly compared to OS X blow.gif

Good decision though, it'll be a long while yet before we can consider Macs for wide use.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:39 AM

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:28 AM

Since Apple now uses Intel chips with x86 architechture which is essentially all of the current Intel chips available, you can run Mac OS X on a Windows based machine that has an Intel component. I am not sure how much it costs to buy Mac OS X but if you dual booted Windows XP and Mac OS X on a Windows based machine, you could get far better components and upgrades would be cheaper and you have the functionality of both operating systems. Stay the hell away from Vista if you know whats good for you though, its terrible and is a huge ass program. Mac OS X has a lot of great built in programs like iMovie and Garage Band plus the ease of functionality for audio, video and photo editing if thats what you are interested in.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 04:33 PM

QUOTE (testify @ Feb 7 2007, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This all i have to say on the matter Click

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 09:42 AM

mac. they are clearly more cutting edge of technology, user friendly, and creative than a PC. even though they arent where PCs are right now, by investing in a mac you're helping to fund the company that will soon build a way better computer. think how far behind macs were a decade ago. give them more momentum by investing in a mac.

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 03:12 AM

^ It may be a better OS but seriously the initial investment required is quite ridiculous. To add to that

i) Upgrading (including when Leopard comes out) is going to cost a bomb. Apple isn't particularly known for backwards compatibility either.
ii) Hardware is limited to what the company wants you to buy (for the most part)
iii) Range of software available is limited. Good software is quite expensive.
iv) Games will take a while to come out on the platform, so most casual users are not going to be too happy.

For the serious user who wants it for very few specific purposes it's awesome. It works out of the box, all hardware that you buy for it is guaranteed to be supported, and the software suites are mindblowing.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 08:18 AM

who cares about games. it has everything i need in a computer. i only randomly play simcity or pacman. its not like they dont have those ones out already! and i will be happy to pay extra money for upgrades because they work. microsoft sends me updates all the time and my virus scan still finds vulnerabilities. forget that. go mac and dont go back. god bless you for your philanthropy bill gates, but your OS is garbage. i wanted to write a term paper not wonder why my computer is going apecrap haha

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (thehundredthone @ Feb 10 2007, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ It may be a better OS but seriously the initial investment required is quite ridiculous. To add to that

i) Upgrading (including when Leopard comes out) is going to cost a bomb. Apple isn't particularly known for backwards compatibility either.
ii) Hardware is limited to what the company wants you to buy (for the most part)
iii) Range of software available is limited. Good software is quite expensive.
iv) Games will take a while to come out on the platform, so most casual users are not going to be too happy.

For the serious user who wants it for very few specific purposes it's awesome. It works out of the box, all hardware that you buy for it is guaranteed to be supported, and the software suites are mindblowing.

Virtual PC anyone? You are aware that Mac's have been emulating Windows for years now.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Feb 11 2007, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Virtual PC anyone? You are aware that Mac's have been emulating Windows for years now.


You are aware that emulation != native environment. There will be speed compromise, not to mention memory compromise, both of which are significant when you're using Virtual PC to run games.

No amount of emulation will change the fact that you will have to update the OS if the software you use no longer supports it. Leopard is quite close, so all I'm saying is that it's better to wait till Leopard is out, and also to look over whether you are using the mac only for your work like sixgunsound or you're looking at gaming, in which case both hardware and software support is currently in Windows' (although cedega is quite close with most games) favour.
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Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:46 AM

Macs are the future. However, I think you can use the OS X on a PC too. The compatibility of a UNIX-based OS depends on your mobo.




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