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#1 monkeybutler

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 08:40 AM

Nothing to see here now. Move along, there you go. Move along now, ya hear?

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#2 mistymountainhop

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 10:16 AM

Nice well written piece, and informative for our members!

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 10:58 AM

Isn't an Epi LP a fake anyway(of a gibson).

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (Dave C @ Apr 11 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't an Epi LP a fake anyway(of a gibson).


Of course not. In the same way that Burger King isnt a counterfeit McDonalds. I dont go into Burger King thinking its Maccies, and dont eat a Whopper thinking "This Big Mac just doesnt seem right".

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:29 PM

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Isn't an Epi LP a fake anyway(of a gibson).


Of course not. In the same way that Burger King isnt a counterfeit McDonalds. I dont go into Burger King thinking its Maccies, and dont eat a Whopper thinking "This Big Mac just doesnt seem right".


But then Burger King doesn't call its burger "The Burger King Big Mac" and sell it at half the price of a real Big Mac. laugh2.gif
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (dadfad @ Apr 11 2008, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (Dave C @ Apr 11 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't an Epi LP a fake anyway(of a gibson).


Of course not. In the same way that Burger King isnt a counterfeit McDonalds. I dont go into Burger King thinking its Maccies, and dont eat a Whopper thinking "This Big Mac just doesnt seem right".


But then Burger King doesn't call its burger "The Burger King Big Mac" and sell it at half the price of a real Big Mac. laugh2.gif


ya i thought that was a really weird analogy to use. interesting read nonetheless

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 01:37 PM

I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Apr 11 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (one_who_rocks @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Apr 11 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.


i love this response. A+

#10 SmashySmashy

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE (one_who_rocks @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 05:02 PM

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 06:02 PM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.


There you go again, talking about things you don`t have a clue about. There is a huge market out there for Epiphone. Not just for beginners, but for the gigging player. And there are some damn good Epiphones out there to be had. It`s not just the elitist series that you keep banging on about, but also the Custom series are a good guitar to be had. The Korina V is supurb bit of kit, as is the Explorer Korina. As for the Black Beauty, well that is the flagship of their solid bodys.The LP Standard is also a very good buy for the price. Infact i would say that the Majority of Epiphones are good for not just the beginner, but also for the working guitarist. The only guitars that really do let the side down are the Specials, the G310 SG, the Studio, the Dot, and the horrible horrible Emily the Strange SG, with it`s unfinished frets, and thick neck. Do your research, and experiance what you talk about, before you start talking about it.

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 06:19 PM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.

Geez read what you write

You talked about some high end Epiphone LP for a few months before you moved onto something new. It must be crappy

Do you any experience with Epiphone guitars? Clearly not. They make some fine hollow body guitars and their Masterbuilt series is amazing.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Apr 11 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.

Exactly, if you want to rip somone off, and make some money, surely you'd be better off faking a gibson LP or similar.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE (Dave C @ Apr 12 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Apr 11 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.

Exactly, if you want to rip somone off, and make some money, surely you'd be better off faking a gibson LP or similar.



because there is a larger marjet of people that can afford Epis over Gibsons.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:48 AM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.


There you go again, talking about things you don`t have a clue about. There is a huge market out there for Epiphone. Not just for beginners, but for the gigging player. And there are some damn good Epiphones out there to be had. It`s not just the elitist series that you keep banging on about, but also the Custom series are a good guitar to be had. The Korina V is supurb bit of kit, as is the Explorer Korina. As for the Black Beauty, well that is the flagship of their solid bodys.The LP Standard is also a very good buy for the price. Infact i would say that the Majority of Epiphones are good for not just the beginner, but also for the working guitarist. The only guitars that really do let the side down are the Specials, the G310 SG, the Studio, the Dot, and the horrible horrible Emily the Strange SG, with it`s unfinished frets, and thick neck. Do your research, and experiance what you talk about, before you start talking about it.


I agree, i own a left handed epiphone les paul standard and the quality for the price is very good. I must admit i did try out an epi les paul special when i wanted to have a go on an amp [only guitar they had that was left handed...] and it was appauling, had sharp frets and a poor neck join. The price differences in the epi range are definetly justified. How much were they selling those copies for?

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:50 AM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.


There you go again, talking about things you don`t have a clue about. There is a huge market out there for Epiphone. Not just for beginners, but for the gigging player. And there are some damn good Epiphones out there to be had. It`s not just the elitist series that you keep banging on about, but also the Custom series are a good guitar to be had. The Korina V is supurb bit of kit, as is the Explorer Korina. As for the Black Beauty, well that is the flagship of their solid bodys.The LP Standard is also a very good buy for the price. Infact i would say that the Majority of Epiphones are good for not just the beginner, but also for the working guitarist. The only guitars that really do let the side down are the Specials, the G310 SG, the Studio, the Dot, and the horrible horrible Emily the Strange SG, with it`s unfinished frets, and thick neck. Do your research, and experiance what you talk about, before you start talking about it.


i second that... i own a limited edition custom shop.. and its a fine fine guitar.. i have no complaints whatsoever..

anyway i think the fake guitars can be made out by the mother of pearl inlays.. the fake ones look plain white.. in the pictures that are posted.

wtf is that noise?

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:30 AM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.


Because they want money.

You can get an Epi for 200 bucks, I don't see the difference between that and buying a real one for the same price, besides, there is a very small market for Epiphone guitars aside from beginner players and even the ones that people can afford are not amazing to begin with. The only difference really is going to be the quality of the instrument and I have not found very many student model Epiphone guitars to be all that impressive, once you get into the higher end Elitist series, then there would be a good way to make money off copies.


There you go again, talking about things you don`t have a clue about. There is a huge market out there for Epiphone. Not just for beginners, but for the gigging player. And there are some damn good Epiphones out there to be had. It`s not just the elitist series that you keep banging on about, but also the Custom series are a good guitar to be had. The Korina V is supurb bit of kit, as is the Explorer Korina. As for the Black Beauty, well that is the flagship of their solid bodys.The LP Standard is also a very good buy for the price. Infact i would say that the Majority of Epiphones are good for not just the beginner, but also for the working guitarist. The only guitars that really do let the side down are the Specials, the G310 SG, the Studio, the Dot, and the horrible horrible Emily the Strange SG, with it`s unfinished frets, and thick neck. Do your research, and experiance what you talk about, before you start talking about it.

I dunno, I have played a few Epi LP Standards and some of their Custom guitars as well and some of the few that I actually liked playing were the Les Paul Standard Plus and the LP Ultra-II which were pretty nice guitars to be honest. I just found some of them to not be all that great, the frets were sharp, the action was fairly high and the intonation was off in places. Mind you I am not expecting guitars to be 100% perfect right off the shelf, but the ones I have played would require a complete setup and fret dressing in order to play well, but I am also fairly picky about a guitars neck and how it feels off the shelf. I really like the Tony Iommi SG though, that is by far one of the nicer Epiphone guitars I have played next to the Goldtop Les Pauls.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:09 PM

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I dunno why anyone would make fake Epiphone guitars to begin with. Most of them are pretty cheap aside from the Elitist series, making copies just seems like a complete waste of time to be honest.

Exactly, if you want to rip somone off, and make some money, surely you'd be better off faking a gibson LP or similar.



because there is a larger marjet of people that can afford Epis over Gibsons.


Its not only that its also the fact that its best not to fake anything too good. Someone spending a few grand is more likely to look a bit closer and do there research. People expect people to forge the finer things. But they often dont think about people forgeing the not so good things. So by forgeing a not so good guitar the buyer is less likely to even contemple it being a fake. When forgeing anything its always wise not to forge something thats too good. Its the same when stealing something. if for exaple you robbed an art gallery and you have a piccaso on one wall worth a million or a painting by a lesser known artist worth 10 grand you really are better off takeing the 10 grand one. Its not too good to sell.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (AcousticSmash @ Apr 12 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, I have played a few Epi LP Standards and some of their Custom guitars as well and some of the few that I actually liked playing were the Les Paul Standard Plus and the LP Ultra-II which were pretty nice guitars to be honest. I just found some of them to not be all that great, the frets were sharp, the action was fairly high and the intonation was off in places. Mind you I am not expecting guitars to be 100% perfect right off the shelf, but the ones I have played would require a complete setup and fret dressing in order to play well, but I am also fairly picky about a guitars neck and how it feels off the shelf. I really like the Tony Iommi SG though, that is by far one of the nicer Epiphone guitars I have played next to the Goldtop Les Pauls.



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