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[awesem]

Joke, more like.

agreed. I'm a student, but I still see honestly no point in the discounts. As if the majority of students don't have it easy enough as it is. Ask Mommy and Daddy for money and get whatever the fuck they want. Then when it comes time for them to actually have to work in life, they fail terribly. Parenting these days sucks just as bad as our economy.

As a university student trying to pay $5000/semester for school ON MY OWN, and not being able to work more than 20 hours a week without letting school suffer, I really appreciate getting a fucking cheap sandwich now and then.

yeah man, when I was studying, I was working 3 part time jobs most of the time (there was one stage I had 5 different jobs at one time). Anyways, one of the jobs was waitressing at an indian restaraunt. The obviously felt sorry for us and would send us home with ice-cream containers full of food. They said they'd cooked too much, but I knew they just took pity on us starving students.

[Spongeyguy]

They just had a huge crush on you Em. You know it. We all know it.

[wooooogiecrisp]

solution for poor college kids: go to prison and take free college courses while eating free meals in your own free dorm room with free butt sex

[Mick!]

Joke, more like.

agreed. I'm a student, but I still see honestly no point in the discounts. As if the majority of students don't have it easy enough as it is. Ask Mommy and Daddy for money and get whatever the fuck they want. Then when it comes time for them to actually have to work in life, they fail terribly. Parenting these days sucks just as bad as our economy.

This is one of the most dickish posts I've seen on this forum in a while. Bravo, you dick.

[Dave C]

I've seen worse in the football thread.

[mandible]

Joke, more like.

agreed. I'm a student, but I still see honestly no point in the discounts. As if the majority of students don't have it easy enough as it is. Ask Mommy and Daddy for money and get whatever the fuck they want. Then when it comes time for them to actually have to work in life, they fail terribly. Parenting these days sucks just as bad as our economy.

This is one of the most dickish posts I've seen on this forum in a while. Bravo, you dick.

I don't see how? =/

Sure, it's not 100% spot on, but there's a lot of truth in it. Students in general do have it pretty easy financially. Outside London, the majority of people whose student loans run out, it's because they expect it to cover their social lives as well as their living costs.

I lived in a moderate house in Manchester (which still cost £1100 a month between 4), paid bills, ate perfectly well, bought clothes (though not "fashion"), went to 1 or 2 gigs a month, and went out to clubs a couple of times a month, bought a load of other unnecessary crap, and still ended up with an excess.

The people I knew who ran out of money and complained that their student loan wasn't enough were those who took the first payment to Selfridges, and subsequently went out drinking 3-4 times a week. At which point they raided the bank of mum and dad.

Obviously over here the fee alterations will have implications, but the mindset of the student majority in a generation that places increasing importance on "stuff" is unlikely to. Most students go to university with no ability to manage their finances, and many of my friends in their late 20s and early 30s still don't get it, and continue to lean on the parental crutches.

[gusdotcom]

A recent study in Sweden concluded that it is impossible to study in Sweden unless you have a job or can get extra money from somewhere else.
That study used a rather low rent of €200 a month. A small flat near campus here is about €450 a month.
The immigration autohrities also wanted to deport a student union president who was an exchange student from Australia. The reason was that she made too little money to stay. She made more when she worked as a student union president than a normal student get.
So yeah, it's not impossible to get by but you need a spare job and/or a job in the summer so every discount is welcome.

I do very well since I live at home with no rent and I have a very good job in the summers.

[mandible]

That's another thing as well... students complain that they can't be expected to hold down a job at the same time as studying. That's utter bollocks, within the reasonable boundaries of say 16 hours a week.

A full time job is 37.5 hours a week. I don't know of many courses with 21.5 hours a week of contact time, and if you're not prepared to use your "recreational time" to do assignments, you shouldn't be on the course.

[Spongeyguy]

I am at school 27 hours a week, put in roughly 15-20 hours of homework/studying, and work 15 hours. A dollar off my weekly groceries is welcome.

[gusdotcom]

That's another thing as well... students complain that they can't be expected to hold down a job at the same time as studying. That's utter bollocks, within the reasonable boundaries of say 16 hours a week.

A full time job is 37.5 hours a week. I don't know of many courses with 21.5 hours a week of contact time, and if you're not prepared to use your "recreational time" to do assignments, you shouldn't be on the course.

Full time studying is 50 hours a week at my university, more near the exams.
For example, before the summer we have a Thursday and Friday off in Sweden. In those 4 days when everybody else were at home, I spent 45 hours at school writing a report. That's more than a full weeks work in 4 days so I don't want to hear any bull shit about not working hard enough. Time is something students have precious little off. That's why most of us spend all summer working. Last summer I had a total of one week off, spread out with two days between last exam and first day of work and then 5 days after last day of work before school started and those days were spent studying.
Some other places have it much easier thought and they have no right to complain.

[wooooogiecrisp]

That's another thing as well... students complain that they can't be expected to hold down a job at the same time as studying. That's utter bollocks, within the reasonable boundaries of say 16 hours a week.

A full time job is 37.5 hours a week. I don't know of many courses with 21.5 hours a week of contact time, and if you're not prepared to use your "recreational time" to do assignments, you shouldn't be on the course.

Full time studying is 50 hours a week at my university, more near the exams.
For example, before the summer we have a Thursday and Friday off in Sweden. In those 4 days when everybody else were at home, I spent 45 hours at school writing a report. That's more than a full weeks work in 4 days so I don't want to hear any bull shit about not working hard enough. Time is something students have precious little off. That's why most of us spend all summer bullshitting on GTU.

[mandible]

That's another thing as well... students complain that they can't be expected to hold down a job at the same time as studying. That's utter bollocks, within the reasonable boundaries of say 16 hours a week.

A full time job is 37.5 hours a week. I don't know of many courses with 21.5 hours a week of contact time, and if you're not prepared to use your "recreational time" to do assignments, you shouldn't be on the course.

Full time studying is 50 hours a week at my university, more near the exams.
For example, before the summer we have a Thursday and Friday off in Sweden. In those 4 days when everybody else were at home, I spent 45 hours at school writing a report. That's more than a full weeks work in 4 days so I don't want to hear any bull shit about not working hard enough. Time is something students have precious little off. That's why most of us spend all summer working. Last summer I had a total of one week off, spread out with two days between last exam and first day of work and then 5 days after last day of work before school started and those days were spent studying.
Some other places have it much easier thought and they have no right to complain.

Most courses here seem to be up to about 16 hours a week, though of course some are more.

History at Manchester Uni in 2nd year was 6 hours a week of contact time when my girlfriend was doing it =/

Student culture here is largely alcohol and complaining... everyone likes to think of themselves as being hard done by, but unless you're at one of the very top universities, the workload really isn't as unmanageable as people try to make out.

I did two degrees simultaneously (Of, I would say, upper medium intensity relative to other subjects), whilst also rehearsing, recording, and regularly gigging across the country in a touring band. I could easily have taken on a job as well, but my expenses (and indeed a lot of recreational costs) were met by my loan.

I also did an MSc while working 37.5 hours a week (which was more like 50 hours a week at the time... the joys of unpaid additional hours).

There's always the possibility that I am a genius, but I very much doubt it.

Edited by mandible, 06 December 2010 - 05:41 AM.

[Blugh Grant]

my course was 8 hours a week in lectures/seminars, but we were expected to do anther 40 hours a week reading/ working on assignments etc. And we needed to, too. just cos it was so little time in a lecture hall doesnt mean it was a doss

[mandible]

my course was 8 hours a week in lectures/seminars, but we were expected to do anther 40 hours a week reading/ working on assignments etc. And we needed to, too. just cos it was so little time in a lecture hall doesnt mean it was a doss

Expected to do and doing are rarely the same, though.

I was voted "most likely to be succeed" in my high school class, after all

Actually, I suppose I have, relative to the rest of them...

[Blugh Grant]

my course was 8 hours a week in lectures/seminars, but we were expected to do anther 40 hours a week reading/ working on assignments etc. And we needed to, too. just cos it was so little time in a lecture hall doesnt mean it was a doss

Expected to do and doing are rarely the same, though.

I was voted "most likely to be succeed" in my high school class, after all

Actually, I suppose I have, relative to the rest of them...

Well, yeah. It was a case of "we're not going to hold your hand, if you do the work you'll get the reward, if you don't you won't. Your choice"

I.......I failed

[mandible]

my course was 8 hours a week in lectures/seminars, but we were expected to do anther 40 hours a week reading/ working on assignments etc. And we needed to, too. just cos it was so little time in a lecture hall doesnt mean it was a doss

Expected to do and doing are rarely the same, though.

I was voted "most likely to be succeed" in my high school class, after all

Actually, I suppose I have, relative to the rest of them...

Well, yeah. It was a case of "we're not going to hold your hand, if you do the work you'll get the reward, if you don't you won't. Your choice"

I.......I failed

But you can name the majority of the cast of neighbours, so it's not all bad.

Ok, it's all bad.

[Blugh Grant]

Diagnosis Murder ftw. Barry Van Dyke......what. A. Man.

[mandible]

I didn't watch TV as a student... aside from half a dozen football matches and a few episodes of peep show.

[Blugh Grant]

Worst. Student. Ever.

[wooooogiecrisp]

his holster is backwards


unless he draws left handed