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#61 Ayaura

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:45 AM

OOoh, I take off for a while and come back and see there is actually some intelligent debate happening at GTU, there is hope for us yet!

My two cents now, Religion and culture can influence each other. However, I have no religion, and no influence from it growing up. But I do have culture - albeit I don't really know how to define Canadian culture at all, but other than it may be an accepting of differing views and religions, and the need to apologize constantly so as not to offend others or have others think you are a bigot.

But I do think that religion has influenced other cultures. Anyone who says Holy F.uck can't argue with that. Even my own culture of celebrating Christmas and a fat man in a red suit. That came from religion too.

But has culture influenced religion?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:47 AM

Culture creates religion in the first place. If Christianity were created from scratch today do you think it would be the same?
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:52 AM

No

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:53 AM

I was under the impression that Christmas originated as a Pagan orgy.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:54 AM

Christians view Pagans as Devil worshippers.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:01 AM

So to sum up, Saudi Arabia would be a bunch of Bigots despite being Muslims?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:01 AM

Christians view Pagans as Devil worshippers.


Why'd you steal their holiday then?
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:04 AM

Me, I'm not a Christian.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:24 AM

No, it doesn't make them bigots for practicing a different culture, especially in their own country. The fact that they are sending a women to the Olympics is very progressive, and I hope she does well, because it may help them move forward with respect to women's rights if she comes home a national hero.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:31 AM

Are they just not very intelligent then?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:36 AM

and I hope she does well, because it may help them move forward with respect to women's rights if she comes home a national hero.

Imagine what will happen to her if she loses.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:38 AM


and I hope she does well, because it may help them move forward with respect to women's rights if she comes home a national hero.

Imagine what will happen to her if she loses.


oh my. what even is she competing in?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:48 AM

So to sum up, Saudi Arabia would be a bunch of Bigots despite being Muslims?


prutty much

No, it doesn't make them bigots for practicing a different culture, especially in their own country. The fact that they are sending a women to the Olympics is very progressive, and I hope she does well, because it may help them move forward with respect to women's rights if she comes home a national hero.


it does if the culture they practise promotes it
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:59 AM

I know a Pentecostal who thinks Gays are perverts. He seems to think it's ok to say because he reckons the bible backs him up.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:01 AM

I think the term bigot should be used on a less broad scale, or more of an individual basis. For example, I had two saudi room mates a few years back, and they were not bigots, they accepted our culture in Canada, living in a communal homestay with women who were educated, working, and wearing what ever they please, they never condemned us. Although the washroom sharing, no use of toilette paper, water splashed all over the counters incidences were hard to cope with for myself. But heck, they even went to the strip club with my lesbian room mate. How is that for progression - and sport!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:05 AM

which just goes to show one shouldnt generalise.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:49 AM

so you honestly think Jesus Christ was is and will be so that people will kill each other??? hahahaha funny man

I know a Pentecostal who thinks Gays are perverts. He seems to think it's ok to say because he reckons the bible backs him up.


i know more men who think that who dont believe in jesus

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

This is very true wOOdy. This guy seems to think the bible suports this, and is his reason for believing this.

The same guy speaks in tougues and claims to be able to cast out Demons and heal the sick. (I think he's mad, but he thinks i am).

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:42 AM

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I guess I should say we're all mad. Can't forget about me.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:54 AM

so you honestly think Jesus Christ was is and will be so that people will kill each other??? hahahaha funny man


as the son of god, what with the holy trinity being all one thing with different aspects, i'd say that the instructions in 1 Samuel 15:3 indicate that at least this once he was for some murdering.

the bible is so inconsistent you can't just take it one way. for every good bit of advice about loving your family there's something about killing your neighbour.

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