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#1 Herr Rararr

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 03:15 AM

Good God, there mustn't be a moment of stability, eh?
It's going to end in civil war pretty soon.

For the Herr's two cents/pence, fuck the Tories, fuck Corbyn, so I guess it'll be the Lib Dems and SNP.
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Posted 18 April 2017 - 03:54 AM

Yeah this is some next level bastardry.

 

I hope it doesn't weaken Scotland's position as my plan to survive the next 5 years involves escaping up there if at all possible.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 04:04 AM

I'd get going now....they're going to start digging a moat pretty soon...


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 06:42 AM

I've heard mumbles about Scotland wanting to join Canada. I'm for it as much as I am for Turks and Caicos joining, which has also been mumbled about. Never gonna happen, but mumble worthy. 

 

Vote Communist Party! 


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 07:24 AM

I read that article too.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 11:50 AM

I'm not going to vote.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 05:30 PM

I'm not going to vote.

 

Fair enough but I would suggest reading this if you have the time/energy:

 

http://www.votenone.org.uk/



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:09 AM

Why would anyone not vote? The old excuse of "there's no good options" doesn't work. Surely you go out and vote for the best of a bad bunch? It's because of people squandering their votes that unwanted parties come into force.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:43 AM

If you vote, you're part of the problem.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:47 AM

Also we're in a mega tory safe seat. The right honorable Karen Bradley, Got many more votes than all the other candidates put together.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:49 AM

If you vote, you're part of the problem.

Sorry Dave but that's a pretty silly outlook.



#12 Herr Rararr

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:59 AM

Gosh, it's almost like he's trolling you.   Hmmmmm.

 

To quote Gus:  :o


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:32 AM

I took an I Side With quiz and apparently Corbyn matches 65% of my views. I suspect you don't have a candidate that leans as far left as I do (or at least there wasn't one represented in that quiz). 


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:52 AM

 

If you vote, you're part of the problem.

Sorry Dave but that's a pretty silly outlook.

 

I have a right to be silly. 



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:57 AM

I took an I Side With quiz and apparently Corbyn matches 65% of my views. I suspect you don't have a candidate that leans as far left as I do (or at least there wasn't one represented in that quiz).

Corbyn seems pretty far left to me.


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If you vote, you're part of the problem.

Sorry Dave but that's a pretty silly outlook.
I have a right to be silly.
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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:04 AM

I do like Corbyn, so a might change my mind.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:31 AM

As most of you know I'm a Labour activist and will be voting (and campaigning for) Labour, but I'm no Corbynite. It's not just about agreeing with what he stands for, which Sixy understandably does, it's about competence and having the skills to be leader. It's about putting forward an agenda the country can get behind, and communicating that well. We're not doing these things well at present, and the polling figures are dire. I'll always be supporting Labour candidates but it's going to be very difficult for us to put it mildly. 

 

Don't believe all the crap about a 'progressive alliance' either. There's nothing progressive about a Liberal Democrat Party that jumped into bed with the Tories and would do so again, or the SNP - who want a Tory victory, because it makes independence more likely. They are talking up a 'progressive alliance' - a clever piece of positioning, because they know English voters hate it. The idea of Labour needing to work with the SNP to keep the Tories out will gift elections to the Tories just like in 2015 and the SNP know it. As for the Greens, fuck 'em. Their top target seat is a Labour-held seat, they're not interested in beating the Tories. 

 

A far more interesting question is why May has bothered calling one now. I have to say I think Blair was spot on in his Independent article - he said that she's called it now because at the moment the British public thinks Brexit is fine, that the predictions of doom and gloom simply didn't happen, the sky didn't fall in etc, but in 6 months' time that won't be the case. We're about to find out that it's going to be much tougher than the Leave campaign told us, that they lied to us; we're going to get a terrible deal and May has seen enough to know that. Someone made a good point on Twitter - just imagine how bad Brexit is going to be if May is prepared to throw away 3 more years of Jeremy Corbyn. 


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:00 PM

Wait, th

 

As most of you know I'm a Labour activist and will be voting (and campaigning for) Labour, but I'm no Corbynite. It's not just about agreeing with what he stands for, which Sixy understandably does, 

 

 

He's seizing the means of production and working toward full Communism? Dope. 


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#19 Herr Rararr

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:14 PM

As most of you know I'm a Labour activist and will be voting (and campaigning for) Labour, but I'm no Corbynite. It's not just about agreeing with what he stands for, which Sixy understandably does, it's about competence and having the skills to be leader. It's about putting forward an agenda the country can get behind, and communicating that well. We're not doing these things well at present, and the polling figures are dire. I'll always be supporting Labour candidates but it's going to be very difficult for us to put it mildly. 

 

Don't believe all the crap about a 'progressive alliance' either. There's nothing progressive about a Liberal Democrat Party that jumped into bed with the Tories and would do so again, or the SNP - who want a Tory victory, because it makes independence more likely. They are talking up a 'progressive alliance' - a clever piece of positioning, because they know English voters hate it. The idea of Labour needing to work with the SNP to keep the Tories out will gift elections to the Tories just like in 2015 and the SNP know it. As for the Greens, fuck 'em. Their top target seat is a Labour-held seat, they're not interested in beating the Tories. 

 

A far more interesting question is why May has bothered calling one now. I have to say I think Blair was spot on in his Independent article - he said that she's called it now because at the moment the British public thinks Brexit is fine, that the predictions of doom and gloom simply didn't happen, the sky didn't fall in etc, but in 6 months' time that won't be the case. We're about to find out that it's going to be much tougher than the Leave campaign told us, that they lied to us; we're going to get a terrible deal and May has seen enough to know that. Someone made a good point on Twitter - just imagine how bad Brexit is going to be if May is prepared to throw away 3 more years of Jeremy Corbyn. 

 

I'm not gonna lie, part of the reason I started this thread was to wake the political beast that is Richey.

 

I despise Corbyn for, as you say, not what he stands for, but his competence and leadership. It's so fucking depressing - Labour need to find someone who can lead. I liked Ed, I was sad Ed didn't get to be Prime Ed.  If I was back in  England I would vote for the Lib Dems - you're write, they're a fickle mistress but I can't vote for JC because I have no confidence he'd get anything done.

 

How does it feel prepping up for an election again (as in work)?

 

Also, May would be a moron not to call an election now - she gets a legitimacy to her premiership, she gets to claim Brexit as mandate of the people again and as you say, she gets to do it all before the shit hits the fan. Yes, there's that whizzing sound now, as it rushes towards it, and sure, we defintiely can smell the stench of fuck-tardedness, but right now people haven't noticed any tangible change since the referendum.

 

God, it makes me miserable.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:28 PM

I like that class sizes went straight to the fore of Corbyn's promises. Nice low hanging fruit there.


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