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#1 shoe1

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 12:16 PM

K, so my band wants to record some tracks. I was looking through the musicians friend catalog and stumbled upon the digitech effect board with a 8 track cd recorder. im using this as an example for some recording questoins i have.

1. If i were to record using a recording thing like that, would i plug my guitar into that, or a mic thats next to my amp?

2. If so, you would have to do seperate track recording, correct? unless it has multiple inputs.

3. If i was also buying it for the effects it uses, would it be worth it?


Thanks. We want to record but we dont want to drop $400 for something that will be crappy, etc. i appreciate the help. cya

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE (shoe1 @ Sep 28 2003, 12:16 PM)
K, so my band wants to record some tracks. I was looking through the musicians friend catalog and stumbled upon the digitech effect board with a 8 track cd recorder. im using this as an example for some recording questoins i have.

1. If i were to record using a recording thing like that, would i plug my guitar into that, or a mic thats next to my amp?

2. If so, you would have to do seperate track recording, correct? unless it has multiple inputs.

3. If i was also buying it for the effects it uses, would it be worth it?


Thanks. We want to record but we dont want to drop $400 for something that will be crappy, etc. i appreciate the help. cya

-Shoe

1. If i were to record using a recording thing like that, would i plug my guitar into that, or a mic thats next to my amp?

You plug both your microphone and guitar into the same jack

2. If so, you would have to do seperate track recording, correct? unless it has multiple inputs.
That's correct

3. If i was also buying it for the effects it uses, would it be worth it?

Depends what effects it comes with, and if they're really worth using in recording

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 12:26 PM

1. If i were to record using a recording thing like that, would i plug my guitar into that, or a mic thats next to my amp?

Either way will work.

2. If so, you would have to do seperate track recording, correct? unless it has multiple inputs.

It all depends on the hardware. If you have a band and it can record 4 tracks at once you can record in one shot. If it's just you and/or it only allows you to record 1 track at a time you will have to record one track at a time.

3. If i was also buying it for the effects it uses, would it be worth it?

Depends on the hardware or the software that comes with it.

I just started recording with the VX400 and I'm pleased with the results so far.

#4 shoe1

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 12:36 PM

K, my band has me as lead guitar, a rhythm guitar, bass, and drums. Would it have only one input jack? if so, how would u record the drums if he was using 5 mics?

thanks guys. i've been lost with tihs forever and ppl told me there was this recording forum! its awesome. thanks again. peace

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE (shoe1 @ Sep 28 2003, 04:36 PM)
K, my band has me as lead guitar, a rhythm guitar, bass, and drums. Would it have only one input jack? if so, how would u record the drums if he was using 5 mics?

thanks guys. i've been lost with tihs forever and ppl told me there was this recording forum! its awesome. thanks again. peace

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I would put the kick and snare drum on 1 track panned to center.

The cymbals and toms I would put on 2 tracks each panned a little to the left and right to give seperation.

Vocals in center one 1 track

Rhythm guitar on 1 track panned slightly to right

Lead guitar on 1 track panned slightly to left

Bass on 1 track in center

That's one way to do it. That's a total of 7 tracks.

You may want to add distortion guitar in a chorus using 2 additional tracks - one panned a little left and the other a little to the right.

Edited by gavin681, 28 September 2003 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2003 - 09:10 PM

well your best bet would be to get a mixer to run the drums through.... allthough your only recording the drums onto one or two tracks that way... you dont have to have as many inputs on your recorder.... for my band we use a six channel mixer we have four drum mics for close micing and we have two overheads that capture most of the sound the only thing that we use the close mics for are to add the crack of the sticks or to add warmth to the mix...

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Posted 28 September 2003 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (gavin681 @ Sep 28 2003, 09:05 PM)
QUOTE (shoe1 @ Sep 28 2003, 04:36 PM)
K, my band has me as lead guitar, a rhythm guitar, bass, and drums. Would it have only one input jack? if so, how would u record the drums if he was using 5 mics?

thanks guys. i've been lost with tihs forever and ppl told me there was this recording forum! its awesome. thanks again. peace

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I would put the kick and snare drum on 1 track panned to center.

The cymbals and toms I would put on 2 tracks each panned a little to the left and right to give seperation.

Vocals in center one 1 track

Rhythm guitar on 1 track panned slightly to right

Lead guitar on 1 track panned slightly to left

Bass on 1 track in center

That's one way to do it. That's a total of 7 tracks.

You may want to add distortion guitar in a chorus using 2 additional tracks - one panned a little left and the other a little to the right.

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Posted 29 September 2003 - 02:24 AM

If this is a digitech effects board with an 8 track recording facility it sounds like there's only one input (two at most) and the 8 track recorder is an 'overdub' facility. That means you can only record one track at a time, then you 'rewind' switch to track 2 and record again playing along with the original track. I

If there are two inputs, the only way to record your band is to 'premix' the band on another mixer and take the stereo output into the 2 inputs of the Digitech and record a stereo mix onto tracks 1 and 2 (if that is possible)

With one input you've no real options as this seriously limits your ability to record a live band.

If it has 8 individual inputs (which I doubt) then you're laughing and can follow the advice given earlier.

The 8 track recording facilities on guitar effects boards are usuall overdub facilities and are usually very limited in their performance, so check it out carefully before shelling out $400. Be sure to buy something suited to your aspirations and I'm afraid an 8 track digital recorder with 8 seperate inputs and mixer facilities would cost a bit more than $400.

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Posted 29 September 2003 - 11:33 AM

man this is confusing stuff! Gavin, what are some suggestions in recording gear for my band? like no more than $500 please. Thanks dude i really appreciate all the ehelp im getting cya.

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