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#21 crab man

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE (metallicac/dc @ Jan 19 2005, 04:20 PM)
It's hard to see what the guy is doing in that pic huh.gif


yeah, what exactly is happening?

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:46 PM

He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 04:46 PM)
He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.


ohmy.gif these pictures were in the paper? ohmy.gif isn't that a little much?

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (GilmourIsGod @ Jan 19 2005, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 04:46 PM)
He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.


ohmy.gif these pictures were in the paper? ohmy.gif isn't that a little much?


I've never seen or heard of it until now.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 02:59 PM

Well... *shrug* they were in the papers yes laugh.gif British papers, of course you hadn't seen them if you're America. I didn't see the cover story of the New York Times this morning. There's a reason for that.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:01 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/
http://www.guardian....1393803,00.html
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:05 PM

Why does this seem so familiar?
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (metallicac/dc @ Jan 19 2005, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (GilmourIsGod @ Jan 19 2005, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 04:46 PM)
He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.


ohmy.gif these pictures were in the paper? ohmy.gif isn't that a little much?


I've never seen or heard of it until now.




That's because they try to sweep things under the table.

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE (pbaxter2001 @ Jan 19 2005, 06:07 PM)
QUOTE (metallicac/dc @ Jan 19 2005, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (GilmourIsGod @ Jan 19 2005, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 04:46 PM)
He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.


ohmy.gif these pictures were in the paper? ohmy.gif isn't that a little much?


I've never seen or heard of it until now.




That's because they try to sweep things under the table.


That's true. They should arrest the troops who do that or suspend them from the army. Something to punish them.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (pbaxter2001 @ Jan 19 2005, 11:07 PM)
QUOTE (metallicac/dc @ Jan 19 2005, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (GilmourIsGod @ Jan 19 2005, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 04:46 PM)
He's standing, in his boxers, on top of an Iraqi who is tied up. There are much worse pictures, they were in all the papers this morning: Iraqis lying in a puddle of what appears to be blood, being made to strip naked and simulate anal sex with each other, a soldier controlling an Iraqi on the arm of a forklift truck... I don't think this is a US vs UK matter though. This is a pathetic post from Bax. I've always said that the British soldiers in Iraq have probably abused prisoners and violated the Geneva Convention too. Piers Morgan, the former editor of the Daily Mirror tabloid, was fired after printing pictures which were subsequently proved to be faked. I was angry at that at the time, saying that it surely is happening anyway. I'm glad that authentic pictures have finally surfaced. Tony Blair and General Sir Mike Jackson (Chief of Staff in the British army) have immediately condemned this, saying, rightly, that it's "appalling" and (hopefully correctly) that these are isolated incidents. Several men have been arrested and I only hope that they will be court martialled and made an example of. This stuff is unacceptable.


ohmy.gif these pictures were in the paper? ohmy.gif isn't that a little much?


I've never seen or heard of it until now.




That's because they try to sweep things under the table.



Carpet, you muppet.

He hadn't heard of it because he's American. If he was British he would have known, it's been in every paper and on TV.

The soldiers in the pictures have been arrested and are facing a court martial.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (pbaxter2001 @ Jan 19 2005, 11:07 PM)
That's because they try to sweep things under the table.


Or maybe it's because the US mainstream media has decided that there are other things they want to put on the front of their newspapers? It's been on the front pages of all our newspapers and in all our news programmes. If you are concerned that your national media is not focusing enough of its reporting on the issues that you feel are important and relevant, maybe you should write to the major media organisations and complain?
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#32 metallicac/dc

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (halfmoonbay @ Jan 19 2005, 06:13 PM)
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That's because they try to sweep things under the table.


Or maybe it's because the US mainstream media has decided that there are other things they want to put on the front of their newspapers? It's been on the front pages of all our newspapers and in all our news programmes.


I think it will make people protest the war even more wink.gif
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:47 PM

Good.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:49 PM

Not good. We need this for our protection, imo.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:50 PM

what i don't get is, how can you not be against war? if that many people are dying, its not worth it, you jackasses! who cares what you are protecting, its not worth that much suffering, there is always an alternative solution.

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE (GilmourIsGod @ Jan 19 2005, 06:50 PM)
what i don't get is, how can you not be against war? if that many people are dying, its not worth it, you jackasses! who cares what you are protecting, its not worth that much suffering, there is always an alternative solution.

How do you compromise with people who blow themselves up and kill themselves for what they believe in? You don't.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 03:55 PM

Yeah, you do. Because the only reason they're doing it is because the Coalition military are there, and they'll do it until we leave. History teaches us that terrorism works: the European colonial powers all retreated from occupation when terrorism became too hard to handle. There's still bombings in Iraq and the pretend election is less than a fortnight away. Ridiculous. The war was a terrible mistake and it's not protecting anything. It's making us more unsafe, if anything.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (richey @ Jan 19 2005, 11:55 PM)
Yeah, you do. Because the only reason they're doing it is because the Coalition military are there, and they'll do it until we leave. History teaches us that terrorism works: the European colonial powers all retreated from occupation when terrorism became too hard to handle. There's still bombings in Iraq and the pretend election is less than a fortnight away. Ridiculous. The war was a terrible mistake and it's not protecting anything. It's making us more unsafe, if anything.


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Posted 19 January 2005 - 04:59 PM

I remember saying I knew a few squaddies and how I thought they were the type of person who would do something like this.

Your average British soldier is from a rough, poor background - if you've got money and an education you become an officer... if you join the army at all. You get some good squaddies, but loads of them are in the army instead of being in prison... a sad fact. I guess nice people wouldn't really make good cold blooded killers, huh?

We've got soldiers who are as sick and twisted as some American soldiers! Go Us!! We're number...err... two!

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 05:00 PM

how about the kid on the hood of that car in your sig? was that done by an american or a british person? this ought to be good




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