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#1 StorytellerMusic

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 01:10 PM

hey, ive been doing a lot of recording lately, and was thinking about attempting to use a drum machine for some percussion (i.e. Sublimes early stuff, postal service) i was wondering if any of you guys use drum machines or similar programs, and if so, what you recommend that wouldnt sound super cheezy...

thanks in advance for any input\suggestions...!
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 02:19 PM

ditto. want to get as close to a real drum sound as I can without using an actual drumset though.

if I had the skill to use a drumset well enough, and the means to record it, I'd do that, but I don't, so all hail drum machines.

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 10:17 AM

i got a cheesy one free- google "hammerhead rythym station"

to hear an example of what it sounds like in a semi-serious arena-

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its just a siply but effect beat- thats about the most of its abilities
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 12:34 PM

For the actual drum samples, the NS Kit does just nicely, and its free.

I recommend Battery as your drum sampler. Doesn't need to be the newest one, i use version 1 and its fine. Battery acts as a program to store and organise all your drum samples, which if you're using the NS Kit - is quite a lot! It runs as a VST application inside your multi track recording program. You write a MIDI drum track and set the output to Battery. It then plays the samples you've chosen, taking into account different velocitys - there are multiple samples for each hit.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:46 AM

well personally i would never ever use a drum machine as i think there use and sound are basically a bunch of apsolute crap!, if you where maybe going to get one i would go and get a padded drums kit...but there quite expensive...but still they work out better

but anyway...my advice!!

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:47 AM

ps: there a absolute bunch of shizea!!!

Edited by andrewjackson, 20 May 2005 - 01:48 AM.


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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:49 AM

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:51 AM

sorry i was just see'ing which swear words worked as the admin or mod of this forum decided to put stupid word blocks on it

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE (mrbung1e @ May 19 2005, 08:34 PM)
For the actual drum samples, the NS Kit does just nicely, and its free.

I recommend Battery as your drum sampler. Doesn't need to be the newest one, i use version 1 and its fine. Battery acts as a program to store and organise all your drum samples, which if you're using the NS Kit - is quite a lot! It runs as a VST application inside your multi track recording program. You write a MIDI drum track and set the output to Battery. It then plays the samples you've chosen, taking into account different velocitys - there are multiple samples for each hit.


Did you have any problems downloading from the ns site? I can't get it straight from the site and things like GetRight don't help much. It goes at 3Kb/sec and then dies. sad.gif
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:20 AM

nope, no problems for me. i could attempt to send it to you on msn if you like.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:23 AM

QUOTE (andrewjackson @ May 20 2005, 09:46 AM)
well personally i would never ever use a drum machine as i think there use and sound are basically a bunch of apsolute crap!, if you where maybe going to get one i would go and get a padded drums kit...but there quite expensive...but still they work out better

but anyway...my advice!!


you are quite out of touch. a drum machine can now give pretty reasonable results, with the right skills. infact more music than you think uses computerised drums, for example the new Meshuggah album. here is a short demo of the NS kit in action. and remember this is a free kit, you can imagine how much better results you can get with £xxxx at your disposal.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:47 AM

Yes! I see that my suggestion of the NS Kit a long time ago caught on. If you use P2P programs, you can also get some great samples there (such as the wazoo and drumkit from hell). Fruity Loops is a great sampler and all around music programing software, but with battery like mrbung1e said, you can integrate that sampler into your audio program (like Acid Pro, Cubase, etc - anything that handles VST).

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:19 AM

fruity FPC sounds great. using it for a jazz song I am almost finishing.
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 08:51 AM

OK, I finally downloaded the ns kit, but...

I'm an idiot who can't open it. After unpacking, I have 3 files: ns_kit7free.gig,
ns_kit7free.pdf and a readme.

Any ideas what to do with them? ohmy.gif


Edit: oh, I see I need Battery or something to run it.

Edited by grzegorz_panek, 20 May 2005 - 08:55 AM.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 10:54 AM

sounds like you downloaded the version for use with Gigastudios. unless you have that program you want the version which is just wav files

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (mrbung1e @ May 20 2005, 06:54 PM)
sounds like you downloaded the version for use with Gigastudios. unless you have that program you want the version which is just wav files


That's right. Looks like a couple more hours to get the right one. laugh.gif

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (andrewjackson @ May 20 2005, 04:46 AM)
well personally i would never ever use a drum machine as i think there use and sound are basically a bunch of apsolute crap!, if you where maybe going to get one i would go and get a padded drums kit...but there quite expensive...but still they work out better

but anyway...my advice!!


Many drummers sound like crap too. And drum machines don't drink your beer or take half the stage.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:18 AM

QUOTE (andrewjackson @ May 20 2005, 04:46 AM)
well personally i would never ever use a drum machine as i think there use and sound are basically a bunch of apsolute crap!, if you where maybe going to get one i would go and get a padded drums kit...but there quite expensive...but still they work out better

but anyway...my advice!!


Who coincidentally work using the same set of digital instructions rolleyes.gif

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:30 AM

Boss Dr's are some of the best.

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 03:47 PM

anyone feel like sharing battery :x



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