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#1 hellyea

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 04:50 AM

well, i always thought the diminshed scale was just every note was a minor third up- but i have just seen this whole "HW" and "WH" diminshed scale thing.
an example is-

CODE
|-------------------------------------------------12--|
|----------------------------------------12-14-15-----|
|-------------------------------12-13-15--------------|
|-------------------11-12-14-15-----------------------|
|----------11-13-14-----------------------------------|
|-12-13-15--------------------------------------------|


the "hw" stands for half step, whole step. as you can see in the tab above that is the HW diminished scale.

but i would have played a diminshed scale like this-

CODE
|-------------------------------------15--|
|--------------------------------17-------------------|
|------------------------15-18-----------------------|
|----------------14-17-------------------------------|
|--------13-16---------------------------------------|
|-12-15----------------------------------------------|



so whats the deal with the HW, WH thing?? the one i play follows a diminished chord................

and where exactly do you start the scale in relation to the root of the key??

Edited by hellyea, 24 June 2006 - 05:05 AM.

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 05:44 AM

You may find a great deal on it in the Net. It is highly dissonant and so its main use is over extended dominant chords, because you can play and emphasise tritone intervals (augmented forth, diminished fifth), which are characteristic of the dominant

http://www.malletjaz...s/dim_les2.html

http://www.petethoma...minished-7.html

http://johncomino.tripod.com/dimsc.htm

Here are some links, you can find much more in jazz theory books.




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Posted 24 June 2006 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE (grzegorz_panek @ Jun 24 2006, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You may find a great deal on it in the Net. It is highly dissonant and so its main use is over extended dominant chords, because you can play and emphasise tritone intervals (augmented forth, diminished fifth), which are characteristic of the dominant

http://www.malletjaz...s/dim_les2.html

http://www.petethoma...minished-7.html

http://johncomino.tripod.com/dimsc.htm

Here are some links, you can find much more in jazz theory books.




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#4 hellyea

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 06:21 AM

Hey, thanks, its been a while since i've seen you around here......good to see you back smile.gif

cheers for the links, i see now that if you take the 1st 3rd 5th and 7th notes from the Diminished scale- you get the diminshed chord.

and would i be right in saying you start the WH scale where youd normally play the aeolian mode??

Edited by hellyea, 24 June 2006 - 06:22 AM.

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 07:31 AM

It's good to see the Bluesmaster of the Vistula Delta back again! Where have you been, Grzeg?

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 07:48 AM

........playing guitar i hope guitar.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 09:17 AM

Yes, playing guitar... I found some hour or two weekly. Work, work and study. And yet more work. Time just enough for trying not to let the fingers stiffen. That's what growing old means... I forgot a lot. Still, I can do that West Coast Blues you taught me, John. smile.gif

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