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#1 biglew_11

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:47 AM

what is a good way to work on pinky range of motion and flexability? It always just wants to follow my other fingers.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:22 PM

scales, sequences up scale patterns, arpeggios up scale patterns, blues shuffle bass lines

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:29 PM

Yh just practice going up and down the strings using all 4 fingers. Like this:

E--1--2--3--4-------------------------------------------------------------------
A----------------1--2--3--4-----------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------1--2--3--4----------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------------------
B-------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4-

And then do the opposite going back up.

Begin by practising slowly, then build your speed up. Also consider doing just the 3rd and 4th fingering (frets 3&4) to build strength in your third and pinky fingers.

Hope this helps. guitar.gif

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:33 PM

I have looked around and I haven't seen anything that helps. The only thing that has helped me is practice I'm better now with it but I still have a problem. With it being slow to hit the sting after my third finger has hit. I only have this problem when I' playing up the neck as long as my pinky starts off it's fine but if it's the last to fret it's slow.

Edited by OneLostGuitarist, 19 February 2007 - 12:35 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2007 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE (mattemery2704 @ Feb 19 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yh just practice going up and down the strings using all 4 fingers. Like this:

E--1--2--3--4-------------------------------------------------------------------
A----------------1--2--3--4-----------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------1--2--3--4----------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------------------
B-------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4-

And then do the opposite going back up.

Begin by practising slowly, then build your speed up. Also consider doing just the 3rd and 4th fingering (frets 3&4) to build strength in your third and pinky fingers.

Hope this helps. guitar.gif



YUP. Make sure you use a metronome though. Practicing without a time device is just wasting your time.

#6 guru of rock n roll

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (ninjato @ Feb 19 2007, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mattemery2704 @ Feb 19 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yh just practice going up and down the strings using all 4 fingers. Like this:

E--1--2--3--4-------------------------------------------------------------------
A----------------1--2--3--4-----------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------1--2--3--4----------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------------------
B-------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4-

And then do the opposite going back up.

Begin by practising slowly, then build your speed up. Also consider doing just the 3rd and 4th fingering (frets 3&4) to build strength in your third and pinky fingers.

Hope this helps. guitar.gif



YUP. Make sure you use a metronome though. Practicing without a time device is just wasting your time.



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#7 Grandpa FrankyZ

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 19 2007, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ninjato @ Feb 19 2007, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mattemery2704 @ Feb 19 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yh just practice going up and down the strings using all 4 fingers. Like this:

E--1--2--3--4-------------------------------------------------------------------
A----------------1--2--3--4-----------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------1--2--3--4----------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------------------
B-------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4-

And then do the opposite going back up.

Begin by practising slowly, then build your speed up. Also consider doing just the 3rd and 4th fingering (frets 3&4) to build strength in your third and pinky fingers.

Hope this helps. guitar.gif



YUP. Make sure you use a metronome though. Practicing without a time device is just wasting your time.



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You would be suprised how many folks don`t use a metronome. I myself did not use one untill a couple of years back, after a conversation with SOT. I was a drummer before i was a guitar player, and was able to keep good time, so i figured i would not need one. My timing is and was pretty good on guitar, but since using a metronome my presision has got so much better(and i expect my timing has as well). So i think the sarcasm is a little unwarrented here. biggrin.gif

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 02:59 PM

Use scales that use all four fingers like the chromatic. And just practice using it alot.
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Posted 19 February 2007 - 03:29 PM

Thanks for the input. I just got a metronome earlier this week and will use it like you said. guitar.gif

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 07:41 AM

When you learn a new solo stick rigidly to the "one finger per fret" rule, you just need to get into the habit of using it. I didn't use it at all in my first 6 months of playing, not untill i made a conscious effort to, as I felt it was holding me back.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE (frankyz84 @ Feb 19 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 19 2007, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ninjato @ Feb 19 2007, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mattemery2704 @ Feb 19 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yh just practice going up and down the strings using all 4 fingers. Like this:

E--1--2--3--4-------------------------------------------------------------------
A----------------1--2--3--4-----------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------1--2--3--4----------------------------------------
G------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------------------
B-------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4---------------
e---------------------------------------------------------------------1--2--3--4-

And then do the opposite going back up.

Begin by practising slowly, then build your speed up. Also consider doing just the 3rd and 4th fingering (frets 3&4) to build strength in your third and pinky fingers.

Hope this helps. guitar.gif



YUP. Make sure you use a metronome though. Practicing without a time device is just wasting your time.



Really. No joking


You would be suprised how many folks don`t use a metronome. I myself did not use one untill a couple of years back, after a conversation with SOT. I was a drummer before i was a guitar player, and was able to keep good time, so i figured i would not need one. My timing is and was pretty good on guitar, but since using a metronome my presision has got so much better(and i expect my timing has as well). So i think the sarcasm is a little unwarrented here. biggrin.gif



I was dead serious. When I play things like that I never used it. That's why I said no joking. But cool I will from now on. happy.gif
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 08:09 AM

the solo from Extreme's "Play with Me" is what forced me to start using mine. pretty much the whole solo is first finger and pinky

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 20 2007, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was dead serious. When I play things like that I never used it. That's why I said no joking. But cool I will from now on. happy.gif


Really? You thought I was just BSing? HAHAHAHAHA

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (ninjato @ Feb 20 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 20 2007, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was dead serious. When I play things like that I never used it. That's why I said no joking. But cool I will from now on. happy.gif


Really? You thought I was just BSing? HAHAHAHAHA


I think it is confusion on posts of franky and mine , but thanxs on that tip will keep it mind biggrin.gif
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 20 2007, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ninjato @ Feb 20 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (guru of rock n roll @ Feb 20 2007, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was dead serious. When I play things like that I never used it. That's why I said no joking. But cool I will from now on. happy.gif


Really? You thought I was just BSing? HAHAHAHAHA


I think it is confusion on posts of franky and mine , but thanxs on that tip will keep it mind biggrin.gif



Yeah, I developed a pretty keen sense of timing and it really helps your fingers build that timing into them.
Pick a tempo (80 bpm is pretty sufficient and even on the fast side)
So figuring 4/4 time, you play on the quarter note..this feels "slow" at 80bpm, then you play 2 notes per click (1/8 notes). All of a sudden at 80bpm the speed of your picking has doubled and also forcing you to really feel that upbeat.
The hard one is triplets. Now you are playing 3 notes per beat, that's already 12 notes per measure, your picking hand now is even more confused due to alternate picking, it will end up in the opposing position w/ every triplet, once you are on 16th note intervals, that's 16 notes per measure or 4 notes per beat, your picking hand now is smoking to keep up and depending on how fast the metronome is set, it gets to the point where you have to start visualizing picking groups to keeps your timing together....

Once you get the rhythm into the fingers, you apply this to scale patterns and arpeggios toachieve fluency in articulating those clearly and most importantly on time. I find this exercise takes care of those hard little passages in tunes where it requires a fast articulation and it's that part of the song that you are stuck on.

You can also reverse it and put the stress on your fretting hand and run the "1234" on each string per beat on 16th notes

Edited by ninjato, 20 February 2007 - 08:08 PM.




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