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#101 dxl

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 08:12 AM

I'm hesitant to read any Graham Greene novels, as I heard he was a dedicated Catholic.

I DONT ENJOY READING BOOKS THAT DONT CONFORM TO MY WORLDVIEW


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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (dxl @ Dec 18 2008, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm hesitant to read any Graham Greene novels, as I heard he was a dedicated Catholic.

I DONT ENJOY READING BOOKS THAT DONT CONFORM TO MY WORLDVIEW

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:42 AM

well, I don't really believe in freedom of choice. you only read and soak in the things you want to believe, not necessarily the things that are ripe with truth

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:44 AM

What about those that torture themselve's with reality with their only advice, "Even though it sucks, that's reality."
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:51 AM

reword that plz? not following you

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:00 AM

I wouldn't let Greene's reputation as a catholic writer hold you back, dxl: I'm not exactly what you would call a practising catholic either. It's true that catholicism features heavily in Greene's novels - especially in his more serious stuff. Early Greene has two widely different "modes" of writing: there's the comedy/dramedy stuff (which he called his "entertainments"), and the literary stuff. The latter often touched on religion. As Greene got older the two slowly converged. Which is a good thing: Greene in full-on-Catholic-serious-novelist-mode can be a bit of a bore.

Having said that, the majority of his stuff is relatively free of preaching. With a few notable exceptions (e.g. The Power and the Glory) his protagonists are good men but lousy catholics. That's pretty much where the influence of religion ends. His plots are never truly driven by religious zeal: religion just happens to be in there. I'd suggest you read The Heart of the Matter or The End of the Affair if you want to try some "serious" Greene. I know a lot of Anglophones who think that The Quiet American is his best work; I never felt that strongly about it, but then I'm not a native English speaker so I might have missed a certain subtlety of prose, who knows. If you want to try one of his entertainments, check out Brighton Rock or The Honorary Consul.

Also, I'd like to note that writing "catholicism" after a few post-dinner whiskeys suddenly becomes a rather daunting task. God, I'm a lightweight.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:08 AM

cheers

I bought a used copy of The Power and the Glory, but I'll check the others out at some point.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

The Giver - Louis Lowry
Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine
I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shine
Come to Daddy on an inside straight
I got no chance of losing this time
No, I got no chance of losing this time

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:42 AM

The only Greene I've read is Brighton Rock and it put me off reading anything else by him. Our teacher seemed to think the Catholic-guilt sub-text of his work was an important element which was something I really didn't relate to and I found the plot and premise very flawed.

I don't know if teacher was a fool (She certainly was in other respects) or if Greene relied on me being a guilty Catholic (Which I was not in any respect) to fill in the gaps of his witting.

His whole Catholic-guilt theme seems to come up in context when people refer to his work so often it's not encouraged me to read anything else by him.

If Brighton Rock is anyway representative of the man he's third rate.

(We were forced to read it at school and that nasty Mrs Thatcher made us pay for it, never really forgave her for that)

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At the moment reading Vanity Fair by Thackery, recommend by someone who thinks Thackery got it right this one and only time.

So far very impressed, even though the sarcasm is subtle enough to miss at first, an amusing story and extremely good characterisation.

Edited by zooloo, 18 December 2008 - 11:45 AM.

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